Who'da thunk? Guns best crime deterrent after all

[lazs2]

curval.. I have never felt insulted by anything you said but I have been puzzled by your apparent hypocricy from time to time.   Like most liberals you seem to not only want to pick and choose what freedoms you allow others but.. oddly... seem to accuse anyone who has a different set of freedoms they endorse of being a hypocrite.

this, I admit puzzles me.. as you seem like a fairly bright guy.   I often wonder what makes you unable to see how foolish it makes you look.

At best...  what you are saying is that, in, at least this case...  some of the gun rights guys are no less hypocritical than you are.

You are defending yourself by saying others are as bad as you are.

lazs

[Elfie]

Well, to be honest I had only heard about the Cayman thing from another blog.

What that judge did during the first hearing was wrong. First, he passed judgement without hearing from both sides. Second, he allowed a violation of the 1st amendment.

However, since he fixed his mistakes I guess we'll have to let him live....this time. 

[midnight Target]

<shrug>
Guess I can assume you are not going to answer.
What myriads?
Where?

you didn't ask a question till now.

only people that need to fear this , are people doing baaaaad things.


a Law abiding citizen, has nothing to fear, and their rights arent
infringed on.

and more of that ilk here  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,227638.0.html

[Curval]

curval.. I have never felt insulted by anything you said but I have been puzzled by your apparent hypocricy from time to time.   Like most liberals you seem to not only want to pick and choose what freedoms you allow others but.. oddly... seem to accuse anyone who has a different set of freedoms they endorse of being a hypocrite.

this, I admit puzzles me.. as you seem like a fairly bright guy.   I often wonder what makes you unable to see how foolish it makes you look.

At best...  what you are saying is that, in, at least this case...  some of the gun rights guys are no less hypocritical than you are.

You are defending yourself by saying others are as bad as you are.

lazs

Okay, Mr. Socialism is evil...except for the pure scientists they have.

[Charon]

Also, methinks Charon needs to "grow a pair" though.  He felt insulted by something I said...I think about the paranoid remark.  After all the abuse hurled my way on this particular issue I find that funny.

I don't recall hurling any abuse your way except as a response to what you have initiated. I'm not "hurt" by your comments, but I am disappointed and find troll-style posts to be irritating regardless of who posts them. I certainly can't say the same for Nashwan or Angus or a number of others who take a constructive part in this discussion. It's my fault for not just ignoring your one-liner drive bys and letting myself get irritated.

Charon

[lazs2]

curval.. are you mixing up science and socialism?  whoda thunk?   science and politics?    I have been told that science is pure.  that politics have nothing to do with it... the saints that are science can't be bothered with grants and politics and such.. 

I am shocked you would hint at such a thing...   You constantly amaze me.  have you ever really thought... uh.. er.. well.. have you ever really thought?

lazs

[wrag]

No guns......................... .

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,335889,00.html

[Jackal1]

You constantly amaze me.  have you ever really thought... uh.. er.. well.. have you ever really thought?

lazs

 

[Angus]

Woot! Killing a woman with a baseball bat, when it's easy to get the hands on a gun!
Oh, I forgot 1/4 (?) of all murders in the US do notinvolve a gun. That is the same % as Euro total....
Then you have the other 3/4 left as a bonus.

[Elfie]

Woot! Killing a woman with a baseball bat, when it's easy to get the hands on a gun!
Oh, I forgot 1/4 (?) of all murders in the US do notinvolve a gun. That is the same % as Euro total....
Then you have the other 3/4 left as a bonus.

That isn't the smartest thing you have ever typed here.

[Jackal1]

That isn't the smartest thing you have ever typed here.

The ice is melting. Give him a break.










 

[wrag]

Hmmmmmm...................

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=58323

[lazs2]

Yep.. when armed students or citizens stop people bent on killing as many as possible.. the press does it's best to cover up the fact.

If they would have hit him with a bat then the press would have given him parades and had him (or her) on every morning show and every "meet the press" kind of crap on TV. 

curval doesn't believe that fully 1/3 of all shootings are stopped by armed citizens but I am sure he must be a tiny bit puzzled by the lack of publicity of the last two shooting incidents and how they were stopped by armed citizens/students.

lazs

[Angus]

I shudder at the stats the USA would have then, if all those armed ones weren't stopping murder, rape and armed robbery.
4 to 1 vs Euros to 8 to 1?
Maybe not the smartest conclusion

[Charon]

I shudder at the stats the USA would have then, if all those armed ones weren't stopping murder, rape and armed robbery.
4 to 1 vs Euros to 8 to 1?
Maybe not the smartest conclusion

Well,

In the areas where the vast majority of the murders occur, law abiding citizens are generally prohibited from carrying a concealed firearms, and in areas like Chicago and New York and DC you are practically prevented from owning most firearms even for protection in the home. You could argue that one of the reasons the gang and thug lifestyle is so dominant and out of control in these areas, and why there is so little cooperation with police, is that they have no means of defending themselves if they try to do anything about the rampant criminal behavior.

I personally would be hard pressed to work against a gang even with a gun for defense. Without a gun for defense -- no way. Especially since I would be treated like a criminal myself for using one.

Charon