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Offline DPQ5

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Re: Which AH flight models need the most work?
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2008, 12:27:05 AM »
yeah the 190a-8 was a much better planes then it is in here, at lower alts it could out turn the mustang
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Re: Which AH flight models need the most work?
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2008, 06:27:22 AM »
"On the 110, I'd say the C was more of an issue than the G."

"I am not sure of that.  The G is used an awful lot and in reality it was a dog.  That may be a function of its guns for base attack, but it seems to get a lot of fighter use too.  I think if there are roll rate and/or turn rate issues with the C they likely carry over to the G as well."

What issues do 110s have?

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Re: Which AH flight models need the most work?
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2008, 03:38:50 PM »
"On the 110, I'd say the C was more of an issue than the G."

"I am not sure of that.  The G is used an awful lot and in reality it was a dog.  That may be a function of its guns for base attack, but it seems to get a lot of fighter use too. I think if there are roll rate and/or turn rate issues with the C they likely carry over to the G as well."

What issues do 110s have?

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Re: Which AH flight models need the most work?
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2008, 07:20:04 PM »
                       The P-47s and their gas tanks. The fact that I love Jugs so much just increases the pain when, after every dive bombing run, a magic bullet find the gas tanks and Im unable to bring it back to base. The T-bolt had self sealing tanks in real life and shouldnt leak after hits any more then any other Yank fighter. Its a terrific aircraft and had a huge impact on history.

                      Has anyone else noticed this? Most of all the "N" models?
the self sealing fuel tanks only worked with mg bullet and cannons make a to big of a hole for them to work
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Re: Which AH flight models need the most work?
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2008, 08:58:53 PM »
yeah the 190a-8 was a much better planes then it is in here, at lower alts it could out turn the mustang

Uh, no, no way with that much higher wingloading and not-very-useful flaps. The people at that history who did the ?research? for that episode of "Dogfights" pretty obviously got "outurn" confused with "out-roll".

Not that I don't think we need a better 190A...something faster than the A5, less of a pig in turn and climb than an A8.

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Re: Which AH flight models need the most work?
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2008, 07:07:04 AM »
"On the 110, I'd say the C was more of an issue than the G."

"I am not sure of that.  The G is used an awful lot and in reality it was a dog.  That may be a function of its guns for base attack, but it seems to get a lot of fighter use too. I think if there are roll rate and/or turn rate issues with the C they likely carry over to the G as well."

What issues do 110s have?

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Re: Which AH flight models need the most work?
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2008, 01:25:00 PM »
During the BoB the 110 wasn't agile enough to fight the Hurricanes and Spitfires on equal terms. However it was still fast and was successful in making B&Z attacks against British fighters, usually while altmonkeying. Later in the war pure turning performance was losing relevance to pure speed, and the 110's deficiency was poor speed and climb while it was considered superior to the 109 as a gun platform and smoothness of flight. The F model was generally considered the best fighter by the 110 pilots with the G taking second place. Note that the G more often than not flew loaded down with extra weapons and equipment. Very few flew them clean as fighters as often seen in AH.

I think the 110 has an undeserved bad reputation fueled by Discovery Channel quality (or lack there of) historical accuracy. The 110 was one of the great workhorse Luftwaffe planes that like the 109 and Ju 88 flew till the end of the war. After the BoB it was usually relegated to ground attack roles or long-range patrol duty. However some were used as heavy fighters in the air war in the west, usually against USAAF daylight raids. The 110 also created a lot of aces, not only in the night-fighter role, but also in the daylight heavy fighter role. More than 70 Luftwaffe pilots made ace status in the 110 in daylight operations. The best of them, Eduard Tratt, had 38 kills to his credit when he was killed in February 1944, including three Hurricanes (1940) and five P-38's (1943-44).
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