ADHD question.

[ZetaNine]

I lump "ADHD" into the same conjured up pile as "Restless Leg Syndrome", "an Insanity Defense" or "alcoholism is a disease."

not buying any of it...

[texasmom]

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[SkyRock]

IMO ADHD is bs 90% of the time ... parents wanting to make parenting alittle simpler by medicating their children instead of raising them

I guess you haven't spent enough time around an ADHD child to know!

[Masherbrum]

I call BS on the 149 dude.

You can call BS on the IQ as much as you want.   I never even showed the results to my Parents until I came across them when my wife and I moved into our home.    They were floored, as was my wife.

Oh, another thing.   I've never even seen the movie "Rain Man".    I don't use ADHD as a crutch, I mock those that do, in an attempt to get them motivated.    But I'll be damned if I'm gonna listen to a bunch of pantywaist BS being slung, when some haven't a clue about what they speak.   

I lump "ADHD" into the same conjured up pile as "Restless Leg Syndrome", "an Insanity Defense" or "alcoholism is a disease."

not buying any of it...

You act like we care that you've provided not a penny's worth of intellect on this subject.   Go darn some mittens.   

[ZetaNine]

 
You act like we care that you've provided not a penny's worth of intellect on this subject.   Go darn some mittens.   

not acting like anything...it's my opinion. take no offense. I liked our society better when we did not self title every malady under the sun...and we just went about making things good for people who needed it...without having to "belong" or "categorize".

[SkyRock]

not acting like anything...it's my opinion. take no offense. I liked our society better when we did not self title every malady under the sun...and we just went about making things good for people who needed it...without having to "belong" or "categorize".

When you talk about those times, you're aware that many decent folks were put into asylums and basically tortured, right?  It is always best to learn, grow, expand on what makes us tick(even when some abuse the system), than to just say he's "lazy" and take him in the back yard, tie him to a tree, and beat him(which was a common thing before we "knew" better).  I saw the beating tree in Union county, MS where they would beat deadbeat husbands and alcoholics, it didnt fix the problem, but it made for good entertainment.

[Simaril]

I lump "ADHD" into the same conjured up pile as "Restless Leg Syndrome", "an Insanity Defense" or "alcoholism is a disease."

not buying any of it...

"Because I haven't seen it, it must not exist"??

Pretty ignorant, IMHO.

While some people definitely latch on to the Disease of the Month, or use imagined illness as an excuse to avoid personal responsibility....I can assure you from direct experience that those things can be real. I've seen patients who thought they had RLS, I've seen people who tried to fake RLS (don't ask), and there's absolutely no mistaking the misery and sometimes desperation of people who have severe cases of the real thing.



Actually, I think Tx Mom hit the nail directly on the head. Parents who want to use meds as a substitute for parenting and teachers who want it used for crowd control are doing no one any favors, least of all the kids. The key for people with ADD (and for people with short tempers, lack of motivation, introverted personalities....shoot, for all of us!) is to understand our own strengths and weaknesses, to build on our strengths and find ways to compensate for our weaknesses.

[Gowan]

and a fascination technology called Neurofeedback, are not cheap.

heh, you did neurofeedback too?  i used to do it, but it got far too expensive for my parents, so i had to stop, im probably going to start it again this summer

[C(Sea)Bass]

heh, you did neurofeedback too?  i used to do it, but it got far too expensive for my parents, so i had to stop, im probably going to start it again this summer

Price is the only downside to it. IF I hadn't done it I may not have made it through High School and into college.

When I did it it was very new and the programs were really lame. The one I kept involved seagulls and a boat, I forget what the actual point of it was.

[Gowan]

the neuro feedback i do is that you watch a movie and everytime the sensors pickup the fact that your distracted (yes, it can tell if your thoughts are distracted) it pauses the movie, and plays it again when you are not distracted, its fun, but expensive

[ZetaNine]

When you talk about those times, you're aware that many decent folks were put into asylums and basically tortured, right?  It is always best to learn, grow, expand on what makes us tick(even when some abuse the system), than to just say he's "lazy" and take him in the back yard, tie him to a tree, and beat him(which was a common thing before we "knew" better).  I saw the beating tree in Union county, MS where they would beat deadbeat husbands and alcoholics, it didnt fix the problem, but it made for good entertainment.

I can't deny any of this, nor disagree with it. that notwithstanding, it does correlate with what I was trying to say...in so far as families taking better care from within.  I think in our nations past, too many parents may have "given up" on their kids and looked to the govt to solve things, by way of such miserable institutions and asylums...where such abuse took place....and that's downright shameful.

[ZetaNine]

"Because I haven't seen it, it must not exist"??

Pretty ignorant, IMHO.

you'll find I almost always skip reading the remaining posts of yours and others, when I see you opening with faked quotes...and then oddly enough...seeing you answering yourself.

[Suave]

Are you talking about the repeating?  My son often repeats his own comments, or the comments of others (repeats them in a whisper, always followed by a sort-of-chuckle-snort).  I don't know why he does it. He doesn't seem to wonder about it either. Usually we just ignore it, unless it's after he hears me cuss while on AH & toss my headset down... then I tell him not to repeat it.

Yeah that's exactly what I used to do. I could controll it if I really tried, but the compulsion just went away when I was 8 I think. I would be interested to learn how many neurologically atypical people also had this strange compulsion. Does he also bite his nails or scratch at his cuticals?

You mentioned something about ADDers learning self discipline. A lot of people make the mistake thinking that ADD is an issue of self discipline. That if they just had self discipline they would be happy. You're making the mistake of applying a neurotypical's solution to somebody who isn't neurotypical. Self discipline isn't going to affect neurotransmitter inhibition, or lack thereof. Trust me I know a thing or two about discipline and self discipline. It's irrelevant to my ADD. A summerisation of the challange that people with ADD have is "I'm unhappy living like this, but how can I do the basic activities of daily living without causing myself to be miserable?". We know what the solutions to normalizing our lives are, it's just that they're unbearable. The cure is worse than the proverbial disease. That's where the medication comes in.
 

[texasmom]

Yeah that's exactly what I used to do. I could controll it if I really tried, but the compulsion just went away when I was 8 I think. I would be interested to learn how many neurologically atypical people also had this strange compulsion. Does he also bite his nails or scratch at his cuticals?

Nope, he sure doesn't.

[texasmom]

You mentioned something about ADDers learning self discipline. A lot of people make the mistake thinking that ADD is an issue of self discipline. That if they just had self discipline they would be happy. You're making the mistake of applying a neurotypical's solution to somebody who isn't neurotypical. Self discipline isn't going to affect neurotransmitter inhibition, or lack thereof. Trust me I know a thing or two about discipline and self discipline. It's irrelevant to my ADD. A summerisation of the challange that people with ADD have is "I'm unhappy living like this, but how can I do the basic activities of daily living without causing myself to be miserable?". We know what the solutions to normalizing our lives are, it's just that they're unbearable. The cure is worse than the proverbial disease. That's where the medication comes in.

I don't object to the use of medicine. I do reject the idea that medicine is the be-all, end-all solution (but that rather it aides them in being in the frame of mind necessary to learn the discipline/self-discipline through established routines).