Slave Reparations

[Carrel]

Agree 100%, Holden.

[Boroda]

I only can imagine what can happen in a Russian forum thread on a similar subject.

Slave reparations in Russia got all paid.

Former slaves paid to former masters after 1861.

Difference is that here we never enslaved ethnically-different people. Anyone who wasn't Orthodox Christian was supposed to live according to their tradition, except if they didn't practice slavery. I mean Central-Asian campaigns after 1861.

[Holden McGroin]

Slave reparations in Russia got all paid.

It was in the USA too.  1 in 7 American men paid for it with their lives at places like Shilo, Antetiam, Wilderness and Gettysburg.

[Boroda]

It was in the USA too.  1 in 7 American men paid for it with their lives at places like Shilo, Antetiam, Wilderness and Gettysburg.

I don't know much about American Civil war.

But do you seriously think that Civil war was about abolishing slavery?... It's like saying that bombing Yugoslavia was about human rights and invading Iraq was about WMD.

[Chairboy]

Or like saying the Russian Revolution was about implementing a worker's paradise of equality and shared success.

[Boroda]

Or like saying the Russian Revolution was about implementing a worker's paradise of equality and shared success.

It could be whatever you say in a country where less then 2% of population worked in industry and 90% were illiterate. Compare it to 1940.

Shared success - that's a great sentence! What we got now is a shared failure for 90% of the population... Just like in so-called "free world".

[Xargos]

The word Slave comes from the Slavic people because so many of them were slaves, and they were not Black.

[Boroda]

The word Slave comes from the Slavic people because so many of them were slaves, and they were not Black.

Pravoslavniy is a right slave eh?

Slava means glory.

I expect more W.A.S.P.s telling me I am a slave by nature.

Russians invented Tetris. So you can't win fighting with them. Did anyone ever win playing Tetris?...

[Xargos]

The Norsemen captured and sold so many of the Slavic People, that's how the word Slave came about.

[Boroda]

The Norsemen captured and sold so many of the Slavic People, that's how the word Slave came about.

Interesting point of view.

May I ask you a question?

Are you so accustomed to a concept of slavery? How many slaves did your great-grand fathers have? Or maybe a leader promised your grand-parents a place to live and some Slavic slaves? In PL, UA, BY, YU or RU?

Still anxious about having some slaves? C'mon. Try bombing us. You're welcome. Always welcome.

[NUKE]

Slightly off topic, but:

I Remember Robin from Howard Stern (who is black) was talking about the native American Indians. I guess people tried to enslave them, but as she said "They weren't having any of that" and then she laughed.

What that means, I don't know...but it's kind of funny in a way.


 

[Xargos]

Interesting point of view.

May I ask you a question?

Are you so accustomed to a concept of slavery? How many slaves did your great-grand fathers have? Or maybe a leader promised your grand-parents a place to live and some Slavic slaves? In PL, UA, BY, YU or RU?

Still anxious about having some slaves? C'mon. Try bombing us. You're welcome. Always welcome.

My family were share croppers in the past, they worked side by side with the slaves.  My mother grew up on a cotton farm and was picking cotton before she was three years old.  My mother has scars on her back from when her grandmother used a bull whip on her because she accidentally turned over a sled full of cotton into the mud, that my mother just picked.  How many of these people asking for reparation even know what cotton looks like?

[Holden McGroin]

I don't know much about American Civil war.

But do you seriously think that Civil war was about abolishing slavery?...

Yup.

Regardless of several AH threads, South Carolina's concerns about Lincoln's view of slavery was the major point named in their reasons for ceceeding.http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/reasons.html#South%20Carolina  The Confederacy knew it was about the north controlling what the south did, and the major all encompassing concern of the south was an overturn of an economic system based on slavery.    

[Toad]

Holden and I will once again agree to disagree.

The issue was, of course, States Rights and the fight was over whether or not the Federal Government had powers over the States that were not specifically enumerated in the Constitution.

From that perspective, it is unfortunate that the South lost because the result is the ever growing Federal nanny state that the US has become.

[Mr No Name]

exactly, Lincoln molested the constitution like none other before or since.  The civil war was over a powerful central government like we have now VS what the nation was intended to be.  Freedom for slaves, the emancipation proclaimation was issued during the war, applying only to southern slaves (A country Lincoln had no power over) in hopes of generating an uprising.