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Re: German Panther
« Reply #75 on: March 26, 2008, 05:34:20 AM »
Nice selectivity gScholtz, bit understable considering the poster.

Hull front

- 50-108mm@34-90° M4A3(76)W HVSS Sherman
- 64-108mm@34-90° M4A3(75)W Sherman
- 114-140mm@34-90° M4A3E2 Sherman
- 51-108mm@34-90° M4A1(76)W Sherman
- 51-108mm@34-90° M4A2 Sherman
- 51-108mm@34-90° M4A2(76)W Sherman


Probably why we won't really see much more of the Sherman than the firefly we have ingame now- Too many variations'.

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Re: German Panther
« Reply #76 on: March 26, 2008, 05:45:11 AM »
Poor gScholtz. I am not twisting your selective words. Frontal armour varied from 51mm to 108mm.  Anyways it is all there to see by who read this thread your selectivity.

Typical gScholtz with the insults. :rolleyes: You while be getting another of your numerous PNGs soon.

A correction:
There was 7499 M4A4s produced between Jul 42 and Sept 43 in just 1 factory. This is MORE than what 3 factories produced of the M4 in the same time span. Both versions began production in July 42. The M4A2 began production in Apr 42.

And the M4A4 had only 51mm front armour. The majority of all Shermans produced had only 51mm front armour. "Wiggle" all you want.
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Re: German Panther
« Reply #77 on: March 26, 2008, 05:49:20 AM »
No it's not really important but had you been less peremptory I would not have posted.

Plus the 100 miles a day affirmation was debunked quite easily : VE days is not at the end of june :D

The distance I posted was quite correct. You measured it by (modern) road, I by air. If you drive via Africa I'm sure you could make it much longer if you really want! Paris - Dakar - Berlin!  :aok
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Re: German Panther
« Reply #78 on: March 26, 2008, 06:11:22 AM »
FYI : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Road

I completly forgot about this one until I passed one borne near Angers

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Re: German Panther
« Reply #79 on: March 26, 2008, 06:18:07 AM »
Good find! So 898 miles it is then for the complete invasion route. A days drive in a fast car.
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Re: German Panther
« Reply #80 on: March 26, 2008, 07:36:29 AM »
one day ... or more :p


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Re: German Panther
« Reply #81 on: March 26, 2008, 07:47:10 AM »
Straight to the Bastille!  :lol

Well, not really ... 898 miles in 24 hours is only a little more than 60 km/h average speed. I think the speed limits in France are more than that? ;)
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Re: German Panther
« Reply #82 on: March 28, 2008, 02:14:25 AM »
if u want kool tanks like panther and goof graphics check out a game called Red Orchestra :aok
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Re: German Panther
« Reply #83 on: March 28, 2008, 11:35:01 AM »
And the M4A4 had only 51mm front armour. The majority of all Shermans produced had only 51mm front armour. "Wiggle" all you want.
How much of the front armor was 51mm?  How much was 108mm?  How much was in between?
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Re: German Panther
« Reply #84 on: March 28, 2008, 12:48:19 PM »
How much of the front armor was 51mm?  How much was 108mm?  How much was in between?

According to the site Milo posted all of it was 51mm on the M4A4. Only the M4A2 had 51-108mm of the standard production models, and the site does not elaborate on those numbers.

See for yourself: http://www.onwar.com/tanks/usa/data/m4a4.htm
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Re: German Panther
« Reply #85 on: March 31, 2008, 11:18:21 AM »
FYI : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Road

I completly forgot about this one until I passed one borne near Angers

Btw. I'll be driving much of Liberty Road late this summer. Doing a three-week drive-around-Europe vacation. :)
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Re: German Panther
« Reply #86 on: March 31, 2008, 07:07:55 PM »
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Re: German Panther
« Reply #87 on: April 01, 2008, 04:14:38 AM »
The M26 would certainly be a match for the Panther. However since only a handful of them saw action in the last three months of the war in Europe the M26 would be of very limited use outside the late war MA. Better to go for one of the Russian heavies like the early-war KV series and the late-war IS series.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iosif_Stalin_tank
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Re: German Panther
« Reply #88 on: April 01, 2008, 04:47:05 AM »
The M26 would certainly be a match for the Panther. However since only a handful of them saw action in the last three months of the war in Europe the M26 would be of very limited use outside the late war MA. Better to go for one of the Russian heavies like the early-war KV series and the late-war IS series.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iosif_Stalin_tank

How would that differ from certian AC already in game?
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Re: German Panther
« Reply #89 on: April 01, 2008, 04:54:50 AM »
How would that differ from certian AC already in game?

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