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Re: Obama's Pastor "disappeared" from website.
« Reply #135 on: March 19, 2008, 01:16:49 PM »
You must be sitting down 'cause I know you'd be flat on your face otherwise with that much spin. I guess what you're saying is that only white people can be racist? It's certainly beeen said before, maybe by Wright's buddy Farrakahn.

Actually what I said is the effort to portray Obama as a racist is an obvious effort. I see how much effort you're putting into it right here. I also call it a ballsy move since the only real apparent motivation of fearing "Obama the racist" being elected is the fear of what he'll do to white people. :)

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« Reply #136 on: March 19, 2008, 01:19:13 PM »
Lol, now there's some spin for you.

Obama never heard Wright utter an anti-American or racist remark despite listening to him for 20 years from the pulpit?

Worth repeating:

If anything, I think the fear is that the great hope for change we can believe in is just another lying politician that hangs out with a really beaut of a pastor.

As someone mentioned, can you imagine the uproar if McCain's pastor of 20 years spewed such Wrighttripe about blacks? You have to laugh at politics in this country.

I'm still writing in Paul.


Couldn't you simplify things and repeat yourself over and over in just one thread in the same forum? Just a suggestion. It's no less (probably more) efficient in the crusade. Carry on. :)

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Re: Obama's Pastor "disappeared" from website.
« Reply #137 on: March 19, 2008, 01:21:00 PM »
Actually what I said is the effort to portray Obama as a racist is an obvious effort. I see how much effort you're putting into it right here. I also call it a ballsy move since the only real apparent motivation of fearing "Obama the racist" being elected is the fear of what he'll do to white people. :)

You got me there. I am very much afraid of what he will do to white people. Of course not just white people but all colors that will ultimately suffer as a result of his far left ideology.
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Re: Obama's Pastor "disappeared" from website.
« Reply #138 on: March 19, 2008, 01:31:50 PM »
You got me there. I am very much afraid of what he will do to white people. Of course not just white people but all colors that will ultimately suffer as a result of his far left ideology.

If racial fear isn't your real motivator you should just concentrate on the final ideology driven sentence and leave it at that because, frankly, the whole "Obama's a racist! Fear the negro candidate!" argument comes off more racist than the dots being vainly connected to accuse Obama of being one. :)

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Re: Obama's Pastor "disappeared" from website.
« Reply #139 on: March 19, 2008, 01:40:47 PM »
If racial fear isn't your real motivator you should just concentrate on the final ideology driven sentence and leave it at that because, frankly, the whole "Obama's a racist! Fear the negro candidate!" argument comes off more racist than the dots being vainly connected to accuse Obama of being one. :)

Why should I ignore the fact that he belonged to a racist church for 20 years? Isn't racism bad? Shouldn't it be exposed to the light of day for all to see?
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Re: Obama's Pastor "disappeared" from website.
« Reply #140 on: March 19, 2008, 01:44:49 PM »
Why should I ignore the fact that he belonged to a racist church for 20 years? Isn't racism bad? Shouldn't it be exposed to the light of day for all to see?

Sources I've found say you exaggerate for political spinnery sake. Ever since I offered rebuttal and challenge nobody's offered up a dime worth of something more convincing than "we think he" "we repeat" "so there!."  :aok

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« Reply #141 on: March 19, 2008, 01:46:06 PM »
At least when I post I try to add something to the discussion. Even if it's in two similar threads.

Too bad no one can say the same for you.

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Re: Obama's Pastor "disappeared" from website.
« Reply #142 on: March 19, 2008, 01:48:24 PM »
Sources I've found say you exaggerate for political spinnery sake. Ever since I offered rebuttal and challenge nobody's offered up a dime worth of something more convincing than "we think he" "we repeat" "so there!."  :aok

I'm not going to sort through your posts to find your challenge. My source is straight from the bigot's mouth and the church's web site. I heard with my own ears and saw with my own eyes all I need to know this congregation was led by and practiced racism.
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« Reply #143 on: March 19, 2008, 02:14:38 PM »
At least when I post I try to add something to the discussion. Even if it's in two similar threads.

Too bad no one can say the same for you.

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I added a request for additional material. Something more substantial. Nothing substantial materialized. Am I supposed to give you accolades at this point? :D

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« Reply #144 on: March 19, 2008, 02:16:04 PM »
I'm not going to sort through your posts to find your challenge. My source is straight from the bigot's mouth and the church's web site. I heard with my own ears and saw with my own eyes all I need to know this congregation was led by and practiced racism.

Well then if all that matters is what you now know in your heart don't expect sharing just that to have the same universal effect on the rest of us. ;)

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« Reply #145 on: March 19, 2008, 02:20:36 PM »
Nah, you're supposed to post something germane to the thread you are posting in.

But not many have any hope that will ever happen on this BBS.

After all, Arlo, you always were too leaky a  vessel to put much hope into.
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Re: Obama's Pastor "disappeared" from website.
« Reply #146 on: March 19, 2008, 03:10:40 PM »
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But that's my contention. The argument that Obama's a racist and a danger suddenly becomes one of clarifying and reclarifying (repeating) the same initial suspicians, accusations and correlations without offering anything, in the end, but feelings over what the politically motivated group that's gotten behind this belief feels. If asked to provide the hard copy, word for word, that proves the accusation for mutual assessment over what's really meat and potatoes versus what's just a sprig of parsley that smells like real food ... then suddenly the challenger "isn't worth taking seriously." Sure it's fine we disagree. I never expect to agree with anyone on anything all the time. But my take on what is or isn't worth taking seriously is related directly to how well one can present their argument when pressed for more than they had planned to present in the first place. That's a constant about me that's apparently driven more than one fellow AHer over the edge, at times. Glad to see you more resistant, additional concrete added to your argument or not.  Smiley - Arlo

i'm not arguing anything.   I wanted to state my opinion that Obama has jumped the shark.  The issue is certainly one of concern for his campaign staff, wouldn't you agree?

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Re: Obama's Pastor "disappeared" from website.
« Reply #147 on: March 19, 2008, 03:17:29 PM »
Obama wasn't as forgiving of Don Imus as he would like for us to be of his decades long association with this racist organization. Of course there is nothing Obama can do to make this right, except lose the election, and perhaps resign from the Senate.
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« Reply #148 on: March 19, 2008, 03:24:15 PM »
Well, looks like someone has forgiven him: http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/19/obama-web-site-still-carries-new-black-panther-party-endorsement/

<edit> Guess that's not new, been there for a while.
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Re: Obama's Pastor "disappeared" from website.
« Reply #149 on: March 19, 2008, 06:14:10 PM »
Nah, you're supposed to post something germane to the thread you are posting in.

But not many have any hope that will ever happen on this BBS.

After all, Arlo, you always were too leaky a  vessel to put much hope into.

Asking for something more substantial than what's been offered so far actually is germane. Answering my request with anything other than "Sorry, I got nuthin" when you apparent have nothing ... much less whining about how leaky *my* boat is at that point ... is just ironically sad. :)