Obama's Pastor "disappeared" from website.

[lazs2]

sooooo.. if us white guys belonged to a church where the pastor was cursing America and ranting on and on about how the negro was destroying the country and generally making life unpleasant for us poor white folk...

And we didn't happen to be there those times.. do ya think.....

Do ya think we might get informed of such goings on by some of the other people we know who attend?

But..  let's get this out in the open.. If it can be proved that the half negro guy was in church when these sermons were going on.. and he just sat and nodded and smiled....

would you then admit something was wrong?

lazs

[Toad]

Why, Laz... what a racist post! 

Well, Arlo, I expected nothing and you offered nothing.

Your attempt to deflect the discussion on to me being all wound up is noted. I will particpate in as many threads as I choose to particpate in and post as much as I like, thanks. As for being wound up, I at least seem to be able to frame cogent arguments, offer support and come to conclusions that I am not afraid to post. If that's shaking my keyboard and foaming at the mouth to you, then it merely means I have been successful with my arguments because you have nothing on which to base a rational reply.

It's pretty easy for the rest of the board to see who's doing the shucking and jiving when you reply to anyone on this board. I saw a brief moment there when you actually replied with substance to BTW (IIRC) but obviously the strain was too much for you and you reverted to your previous modus operandi.

[lazs2]

toad.. let me get this straight..  I must not be getting the whole reading comprehension thing but....

are you saying that arlo is just posting drivel without any substance?

now that I look at it..  I think you are right!   I can't find a single post of substance of his..  what a shocker.

At first I thought it had to do with jon stewart and the writers strike but it seems that, looking back, he never really had a thing to say in any case.

weird.

lazs

[Arlo]

Why, Laz... what a racist post! 

Well, Arlo, I expected nothing and you offered nothing.

Your attempt to deflect the discussion on to me being all wound up is noted. I will particpate in as many threads as I choose to particpate in and post as much as I like, thanks. (snip the extraneous pizzy pants part)

Glad your expectations were met. You're welcome. Good for you. Carry on.  Do I really have to keep responding to this stuff? What? Not really? Ok.

[Toad]

Then don't. You never have anything of substance to add to any thread in any case.

G'day!

[Gunthr]

Arlo, forgive me, but you are a purely defensive verbal swordsman.  Parry and thrust.  That is all you do.

This is all well and good.  It is vaguely amusing to read, but one can't help but notice that Arlo doesn't attempt to persuade others with his own political assertions.  We know Arlo only by inference - what he doesn't attack with sarcastic quips. 

Anyway, I deplore the drive-by way of expressing one's views on a forum like this.  Barbed attacks with a minimum of typing... weave in a little irony or pseudo-irony, and you are done.  It doesn't cut it.



 

[Arlo]

Arlo, forgive me, but you are a purely defensive verbal swordsman.  Parry and thrust.  That is all you do.

This is all well and good.  It is vaguely amusing to read, but one can't help but notice that Arlo doesn't attempt to persuade others with his own political assertions.  We know Arlo only by inference - what he doesn't attack with sarcastic quips. 

Anyway, I deplore the drive-by way of expressing one's views on a forum like this.  Barbed attacks with a minimum of typing... weave in a little irony or pseudo-irony, and you are done.  It doesn't cut it.

Cut what? I'm not on a political crusade on the AHBB. I don't have any mud loaded. I don't have an agenda. I don't have an ulterior motive in my words. That being the case, who made up the rule that those who do are immune from comment or critisism from those who don't, whether up to their expressed "standards" or not?

 But ... on a side note ... now that I'm back in the game and have my hands full with my leisure hours now being actively devoted to actually playing the game again, what other time I may feel inclined to actively participate in matters contributing to making my enviroment, my country and my fellow citizen's lives better are better spent elswhere that the AHBB. 

[AKIron]

Cut what? I'm not on a political crusade on the AHBB. I don't have any mud loaded. I don't have an agenda. I don't have an ulterior motive in my words. That being the case, who made up the rule that those who do are immune from comment or critisism from those who don't, whether up to their expressed "standards" or not?

 But ... on a side note ... now that I'm back in the game and have my hands full with my leisure hours now being actively devoted to actually playing the game again, what other time I may feel inclined to actively participate in matters contributing to making my enviroment, my country and my fellow citizen's lives better are better spent elswhere that the AHBB. 

Don't go away mad....

Public forums like this make it easy to forget we are communicating with individuals rather than entertaining an audience. While I think both may be done here they are often mutually exclusive.

[Gunthr]

well, alrighty then   

[Arlo]

Don't go away mad....

Public forums like this make it easy to forget we are communicating with individuals rather than entertaining an audience. While I think both may be done here they are often mutually exclusive.

Hmmm ... while I may have gotten mad at least a couple dozen times in my four and a half decades on this rock, I don't think anything that's ever happened on this forum ever made the cut. If anything just the opposite. And I've always been aware how much a stage a forum can become. Even when I wasn't taking center (or even pretending to tell myself I have). Nothing exchanged in a forum is ever private.

[Arlo]

well, alrighty then   

See you up. Easy pickin's here ... for now.

[BTW]

Well now, wasn't it all about proving he was less of a hero than George or that George was more of one? Don't you think George woulda taken quite a few pics if he'd gone to `Nam instead of serving in the TANG (kinda)? He still had a pic or two but not that many. And he sure didn't miss out on a photo op in a flightsuit or field jacket his first term in office. Mission accomplished. He wasn't there all that much in `Nam though (or really there serving with the TANG that much - missed out on some more photo ops there). But the "swiftboating campaign" sure went after Kerry's actual combat service in `Nam. And yaknow, I served with more than one fellow vet that spent time there and they sure seemed to have lots of pics. You'd have thunk they thought everyday they made it to there was pretty special. 

Kerry didn't have snapshots, Arlo, he had movies. I found that very unusual. Maybe I'm wrong, but I felt it was a "film me doing something heroic"  moment. Also, Kerry started challenging people's patriotism and heroism in 1971 - long before the swift boat revelations challenged his. But you are exactly right. This Wright revelation is exactly like the swift boat revelations. That's not a bad thing. Its simply when truth pierces a media generated facade. Its healthy for the country to see truth, as the media tends to obscure the truth to fit an agenda. As one journalist wrote, they tend to smash everything through the same stencil, oblivious of any nuances.

[AKIron]

He was hanged alright but it was by his own hand. What do you think this new pator of Obama's church is trying to accomplish? Rally the black people to rise up against oppression or instill more white guilt? He might succeed in the former but the only ones who will sympathize are politicians and actors. Of course their sympathy will be for the camera only. Calling this a "lynching" when everyone can see for themselves exactly what has been said and done only desensitizes people to legitimate "lynchings".

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/23/in-eastor-sermon-trinity-united-pastor-compares-rev-wright-to-jesus/

[Toad]

I don't have an agenda.

Well of course you do! You're here to look into the mirror and ask "Mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the cleverest poster of all?" And you love it when your reflected image answers you with "Arlo!"

No one here is above criticism. I think everyone sees this as a place to exchange ideas and have their beliefs challenged. After all, that is how one progresses on a personal level. The expectation is that those that criticize will also state their views. It's how discussion/debate happens. I doubt anyone here thinks these threads will have any effect in the grand scheme of things. The threads are for personal enjoyment and gain and I think most realize that.

You participate in half of the of the BBS. You're quick to criticize. Other than that, you're a null and add nothing.

[Toad]

He was hanged alright but it was by his own hand. What do you think this new pator of Obama's church is trying to accomplish?

I think Rev. Otis Moss III is trying to accomplish what Pat Buchanan illustrates in this piece:

"A Brief For Whitey"  http://buchanan.org/blog/?p=969

Of course, Buchanan will be tarred as a racist for presenting an opinion that questions Obama's non-racist speech on racism.