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Offline Seagoon

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Skins for KI-67?
« on: March 21, 2008, 03:33:50 PM »
Hi Guys,

Just wondering if anyone has considered doing some new skins for the Ki-67? I was looking over some of the great KI-67 camo jobs at the Wings Palette: http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/b/1030/65/0 and began to salivate...

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Re: Skins for KI-67?
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2008, 03:58:14 PM »
Was hoping someone would do some.....    :D
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Re: Skins for KI-67?
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2008, 04:08:52 PM »
There is only 1 paint scheme. It is on the default skin. Much like the Lancaster, there just aren't any options to skin.

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Re: Skins for KI-67?
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2008, 04:14:11 PM »
Did you ck. out the site Seagoon posted??? Theres a few there.
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Re: Skins for KI-67?
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2008, 04:18:24 PM »
Hi Krusty,

Operationally the KI-67 had many, many, different paint jobs.

For instance:
1st Chutai, 60th Sentai

2nd chutai, 62nd sentai

3rd chutai, 7th Sentai, Rengou Kantai (Navy Combined Fleet)

And so on... The idea that these birds had only one skin isn't true.
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Re: Skins for KI-67?
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2008, 04:38:46 PM »
Hmmmm.... maybe I'll take as stab at one of those. May be a few weeks out as I've got a couple Jugs & such in the works, but it'd be nice to do some no US skins for a change of pace. Lemme know which one you'd prefer & I'll try that one first. Once I get the panel lines done & anything else that will carry over, I should be able to crank a few out.

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Re: Skins for KI-67?
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2008, 05:35:09 PM »
Seagoon, you're looking at all bad color scans/depictions of the same green over grey.

The fact that the profiles are lighter or darker does not reflect the actual historical color itself. MOST of the profiles on that website are grossly off in the colors they have.

All the Ki67 profiles show the same paint scheme, even if they're wrong in how "green" the green was. Historically it was all the same color.

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Re: Skins for KI-67?
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2008, 08:24:13 PM »
Anyone wanting to do KI-67 skins would do well to start here..

Previous Thread

And take a look around here..

http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/ArmyJB&W2/
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Re: Skins for KI-67?
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2008, 08:38:05 PM »
Krusty,

Seagoon, you're looking at all bad color scans/depictions of the same green over grey.

The fact that the profiles are lighter or darker does not reflect the actual historical color itself. MOST of the profiles on that website are grossly off in the colors they have.

All the Ki67 profiles show the same paint scheme, even if they're wrong in how "green" the green was. Historically it was all the same color.


Army KI-67s were generally a variety of the Greens, including the standard Dark Green with Yellow Leading Edges and a whitish underside. As in:



But that was by no means the ONLY scheme - TELL ME THIS IS "THE SAME COLOR":



I'd settle for just a green KI-67 rather than the standard AH2 ORANGE BROWN (Putty).

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« Last Edit: March 21, 2008, 08:39:45 PM by Seagoon »
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Re: Skins for KI-67?
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2008, 01:45:16 AM »
The mottled scheme you see is a prototype. I believe it's covered in the threads Fencer linked.

P.S. Look here:
http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/ArmyJB&W2/

The mottled skin is a prototype (already discussed, it was one Larry brought up I believe, image broken but post intact), and ALL the rest, save the captured US and German skins, are all the same color, all the same scheme.

They're all the same.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2008, 01:50:56 AM by Krusty »

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Re: Skins for KI-67?
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2008, 02:24:35 AM »
The Ki67 skin is very old and screwy. I tryed but it was so much trouble I gave up on it.

There are really only two types of camo green or brown. As krusty said the mottled skin is a prototype and HTC wont let it in game.
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Re: Skins for KI-67?
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2008, 12:18:58 PM »
Sadly the images Larry "Truekill" did are no longer available on the previous thread but the were remarkably good (at least from the perspective of my untrained eye!)  :aok

I still fly the 67 and lament about the lack of skin choices but so goes life.  :(

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Re: Skins for KI-67?
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2008, 01:44:19 PM »
Krusty,

I'm not asking for the mottled (btw - how do we know its a prototype, given that there are two in the picture?) skin. Just a standard "JAAF Green" like this one:


1st chutai, 60th sentai

Note about the 60th Sentai, their color has various opinions:
1st opinion: Chutai was distinguished by the band color of the vertical tail. In other words Sentai honbu is cobalt blue, 1st chutai is white, 2nd chutai is red, and 3rd chutai is yellow.
2nd opinion: Hiryu painted the band color of vertical tail to cobalt blue about all Chutai, after 60th sentai was moved from Type-97 Heavy Bomber (Mitsubishi Ki-21 II, Sally) to Hiryu. And they distinguished chutai by serial number color. Sentai honbu is cobalt blue numbers, 1st chutai is white numbers, 2nd chutai is red numbers, and 3rd chutai is yellow numbers. This drawing expressed the 2nd opinion.

Any possibility? I'd try it myself, but I have no idea which software to use and no artistic ability at all.

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EDIT: Put in a new link to the pic of the skin
« Last Edit: March 22, 2008, 03:10:52 PM by Seagoon »
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Re: Skins for KI-67?
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2008, 03:09:18 PM »
Those were the first two prototypes for the IJA. Any skin with a number other then 1, 8, or 11 on the tail will have it messed up on the other side.
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Re: Skins for KI-67?
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2008, 01:16:49 PM »
So more fuel for the fire! 

How about a german KI-67?



or a white-tailed KI-67?



And this sure looks like an operational cami'ed KI to me!