curious...why is LA7 not perked?

[Anaxogoras]

Fly above 5k ft.

I would perk the spixteen before the La-7 simply because it's often 50% of the aircraft that I see.

[Bucky73]

The only thing that bothers me about newbs "flying" it is that there is NO punishment for playing dumb. They might think about it a bit more if it's going to cost them some (valuable) perkies. La's just "flying" around HOing everthing as fast as they can "fly" it is just sad and this seems to be a disease that is spreading throughout the community. There are alot of good gamers that "fly" the LA and thats fine...To each his own. Some of my best online friends "fly" them. I personally don't understand it. I like to challenge myself a bit and "flying" an LA to me is (as I've said before) like playing Madden '08 on X-box and putting it on easy and winning every game 217-0. What fun is that?

Makes NO sense to me....

As far as the C-hog goes....These take a bit of knowledge to "fly". If you don't know what your doing and know how to use flaps properly along with the throttle you will be toast. So, tell me...What is so hard about "flying" an LA that it shouldn't be perked. Give me reason's why it SHOULDN'T be.

[Lusche]

As far as the C-hog goes....These take a bit of knowledge to "fly". If you don't know what your doing and know how to use flaps properly along with the throttle you will be toast. So, tell me...What is so hard about "flying" an LA that it shouldn't be perked. Give me reason's why it SHOULDN'T be.

You actually were given the reasons why it shouldn't.
Along with reasons why C-Hog was perked.
But on the other hand you didn't even answer in any why why you would even see the Pony perked... a most strange proposal btw

[Anaxogoras]

The only thing that bothers me about newbs "flying" it is that there is NO punishment for playing dumb. They might think about it a bit more if it's going to cost them some (valuable) perkies. La's just "flying" around HOing everthing as fast as they can "fly" it is just sad and this seems to be a disease that is spreading throughout the community. There are alot of good gamers that "fly" the LA and thats fine...To each his own. Some of my best online friends "fly" them. I personally don't understand it. I like to challenge myself a bit and "flying" an LA to me is (as I've said before) like playing Madden '08 on X-box and putting it on easy and winning every game 217-0. What fun is that?

Makes NO sense to me....

As far as the C-hog goes....These take a bit of knowledge to "fly". If you don't know what your doing and know how to use flaps properly along with the throttle you will be toast. So, tell me...What is so hard about "flying" an LA that it shouldn't be perked. Give me reason's why it SHOULDN'T be.

Burden of proof.

[Patches1]

I got curious once, about the LA7 thing...and flew one into a furball....

I landed with 6 kills and no damage to me.

I no longer wonder about the LA-7.

I wasn't around for the Great F4U-1C Fest...and wonder if that Legacy would hold true today.

[Bucky73]

I can't believe you would even ask why the pony should be perked sir. It's fast, turns quit well, handles extremely well at high alt and above average at low alt, it call haul an arsenal of bombs and rockets and can "fly" forever on a tank of fuel, the 50cals (although not deadly in small numbers) are like lazers and are easy to aim. Pony IMO is the best all-around MA plane in the game. The -4 would probably rank right up there for me if I used them more but I've just never been a F4 fan and hate the fact that you can't see well behind you. 

Can you tell me why the Tempy is perked? A pony will eat it for lunch in a turn fight, speeds are pretty much the same, fuel is limited in the temp. So, other than the canons I just don't see why that has a 40 (give or take) perk and the pony or the LA doesn't have ANY?   

Makes NO SENSE

[Lusche]

Can you tell me why the Tempy is perked? A pony will eat it for lunch in a turn fight, speeds are pretty much the same, fuel is limited in the temp. So, other than the canons I just don't see why that has a 40 (give or take) perk and the pony (...) doesn't have ANY?   

Makes NO SENSE

 

Usually I would say "not a praticular good attempt at trolling", but actually I'm rather speechless now...

[Warspawn]

I wasn't around for the Great F4U-1C Fest...and wonder if that Legacy would hold true today.

Many folks forget that there's now a bigger plane set with better rides in it than when the C-hog had its days of glory (and we've had quite a few flight model modifications/fixes).  Sure it's a nice ride, but definately not any better than many now available that are unperked.  Equal pilots in a Niki, Ki-84, Dora or TA152, 109K4 or G14, Spit 16 or 8, LA-7, Typhoon...all will slaughter the C-Hog more often than not.

Honesty, if the Spit XVI and LA-7 are not perked, the C-Hog shouldn't be.  The light perk should be applied to the Spixteen and LA-7 if it's kept on the C-Hog.

[cbizkit]

Equal pilots in a Niki, Ki-84, Dora or TA152, 109K4 or G14, Spit 16 or 8, LA-7, Typhoon...all will slaughter the C-Hog more often than not.

I'd recommend you fly the C-Hog more as it is only slightly worse handling then the other hogs save the 4. Co-E equal pilots I'd say the only likely winner out of that list of planes would be the Ki84 and the two spits (add the K4 if both pilots are experts). All of the rest have to bleed the E of the hog while maintaining their own before they have a chance, and they have to do that before falling pray to a snapshot. In MA terms the only planes I expect a handful from in that list are the Ki84 and the K4.

[Bucky73]

Usually I would say "not a praticular good attempt at trolling", but actually I'm rather speechless now...

I'm thinkin I'm not the one trollin

[dedalos]

The only thing that bothers me about newbs "flying" it is that there is NO punishment for playing dumb. They might think about it a bit more if it's going to cost them some (valuable) perkies. La's just "flying" around HOing everthing as fast as they can "fly" it is just sad and this seems to be a disease that is spreading throughout the community. There are alot of good gamers that "fly" the LA and thats fine...To each his own. Some of my best online friends "fly" them. I personally don't understand it. I like to challenge myself a bit and "flying" an LA to me is (as I've said before) like playing Madden '08 on X-box and putting it on easy and winning every game 217-0. What fun is that?

Makes NO sense to me....

As far as the C-hog goes....These take a bit of knowledge to "fly". If you don't know what your doing and know how to use flaps properly along with the throttle you will be toast. So, tell me...What is so hard about "flying" an LA that it shouldn't be perked. Give me reason's why it SHOULDN'T be.

Did you ever think that if the lala got perked, you would have to deal with tiffis, 190s, and nikis hoing you?  I'd rather face the three cannons

[Warspawn]

Did you ever think that if the lala got perked, you would have to deal with tiffis, 190s, and nikis hoing you?  I'd rather face the three cannons

I think a 5pt perk would at least deter the suicide dweebs, and make them think a bit about actually trying to live through a fight.  The folks really wanting to fly the bird wouldn't be upset by that small amount, much like the C-Hog's.  While it may make nubs think twice about upping it to auger in while vulching or porking ord/troops.

[Warspawn]

All of the rest have to bleed the E of the hog while maintaining their own before they have a chance, and they have to do that before falling pray to a snapshot...

With the new views,  I'm finding it much harder to keep tracking my enemy for the snap.  Any enemy that gets me slow in a C-Hog in that list (Spixteen, LA7, K4, Ki-84, Nikki) ends up killing me fairly easily if they know what they're doing and avoid my lasers.  And once the C-Hog is slow and low, it takes it forever to get speed up or climb to a decent alt...

I still submit that there are better planes, unperked in the current plane set, and that having any cost on the C-Hog is odd.  Unless you apply the same small cost to similar/superior aircraft such as the Spit XVI & LA-7.

I actually feel like the -1A hog is superior in almost every aspect to the C.  I'm sure many other hog drivers would agree...

[dedalos]

I think a 5pt perk would at least deter the suicide dweebs, and make them think a bit about actually trying to live through a fight.  The folks really wanting to fly the bird wouldn't be upset by that small amount, much like the C-Hog's.  While it may make nubs think twice about upping it to auger in while vulching or porking ord/troops.

It wont.  It will make them jump into the next available plain.  If HOing is the issue there are better planes to do that.

There is really no issue with nubes flying the lala.  The people that want to see it perk are the vulchers that cant make it back home when a lala manages to get its gear up.  The rest is all BS.  There are better planes for HOing.  Some of the people complaining about the HOing lalas are the same people that will tell you that it takes 2 to HO.  Make no mistake about it, if I manage to take off from a vulched field in a lala, I am not looking for a fight 10ft off the runway

[Lusche]

I think a 5pt perk would at least deter the suicide dweebs, and make them think a bit about actually trying to live through a fight.  The folks really wanting to fly the bird wouldn't be upset by that small amount, much like the C-Hog's.  While it may make nubs think twice about upping it to auger in while vulching or porking ord/troops.

Ahh, here we have that "educating" argument again. But it will fail. If they can't Ho, auger/pork in a La, they will just take a Typhoon, which has better payload and cannons anyway. (In fact, a LA-7 going on a pork run is a rare sight, for very obvious reasons)

Somehow I often have the feeling it's just a "I don't like it, I don't fly it, let's perk it". (And I'm afraid more often than not that dislike is just a part of AH socialisation, a parrot syndrome and a quite convenient excuse for own shortcomings)

There is no reason to perk a plane that hasn't any unbalancing influence on MA at all. LA-7 ith it's msierable range shouldn't be perked (as well as the Spit XIV should get it removed )