curious...why is LA7 not perked?

[Masherbrum]

Lusche, I know stats don't lie, but there are other factors at play here.  For example: the LA7 is a little bit of a noob plane while the 109 K4 is pretty much a vets plane.  That could easily explain the difference in the K/D.  That being said, I still don't favor perking the LA7.  (Sorry 2fly).  In a duel, I would take the Spit 16 over the LA7 anytime.

Noob's HO.   5% of us KNOW how this La7 turns, and WTF it is capable of.    I up this La7 when a field is on the fringe of being vultched.    Nothing like landing 4-5 quick kills on 25% fuel, turning easily with Spits and still having 350 rounds left.   

 

[Anaxogoras]

There is no reason to perk a plane that hasn't any unbalancing influence on MA at all. LA-7 ith it's msierable range shouldn't be perked (as well as the Spit XIV should get it removed )

I can see the logic behind unperking the Spit XIV.  As it is, it's the cheapest perked fighter and you rarely see them.  Unperked, you would still see fewer XIV's than XVI's, catch my drift?

[Bucky73]

Somehow I often have the feeling it's just a "I don't like it, I don't fly it, let's perk it". (And I'm afraid more often than not that dislike is just a part of AH socialisation, a parrot syndrome and a quite convenient excuse for own shortcomings)

Thats not my argument as I clearly stated that I "fly" a pony alot. I'm not saying give the Lala a 50 perk or anything but to have 40 on the tempy and NOTHING on the Lala?!?! Come on. It should at LEAST be perked the same as the C-hog.

Since you guys are bringing up the "well the HO dweebs will just up typhoon" thing....I think those should have a small perk as well, also the spixteen, hurri2c, n1k and I'm sure a few others that I can't think of ATM.

My point is make it worth something to live through a fight and give a little penalty (if you will) to those that use easier rides. It's just too easy to drive around like a idiot squeezing the trigger at anything red and running as fast as you can to the next red guy. I'm sure the reason HTC doesn't do this is because so many kids that SUBSCRIBE want to just log on and go all ARCADE mode and not put any thought into it at all. Hell, I'd pay alot more for just an arena that only 2 year or more "vets" could play in. It seems that most (not all) that have lasted this long are usually looking for a good clean fight and have a sort of respect for their fellow players.

[Lusche]

Since you guys are bringing up the "well the HO dweebs will just up typhoon" thing....I think those should have a small perk as well, also the spixteen, hurri2c, n1k and I'm sure a few others that I can't think of ATM.

With that kind of logic, you will end up having all better late war rides perked. New players, or simply those not playing often enough to build up major skill levels or a considerable amount of perks will have to resort to much less capable rides, while players like me can easily afford flying late war rides all day.
Horrible idea. Wouldn't do any good to the game. A huge part of the appeal of this game is the fact that you can hop in and have fun. Limiting people's choices for some obscure reasons is not fun.

Regarding to Vets Arena:
- The basic premise that "vets"  fly, act, fight, or behave themselves better is wrong. Skill, behaviour, knowledge isn't tied to game time.
(And I'm sure many long timers will laugh at the thought 2 years would make you a "vet )
- Trying to seperate new from older players is a bad idea for community and the future of aces high? Want to get new players to a better standard? Train them, help then, educate them, but not with an elitist "vet" attitude.

[Bucky73]

Would it be so horrible to have them start out in EW or MW to gain perkies to come in LW and buy rides? Really?

Like I said....Too many want ARCADE MODE though

[Rich46yo]

                        This "noobs in LAs doing the HO'ing" thingy is hilarious. I'll bet its the noobs doing the spawn camping, the vulching, the cherry-picking running, the smack talking....ect

[Rich46yo]

                        This "noobs in LAs doing the HO'ing" thingy is hilarious. I'll bet its the noobs doing the spawn camping, the vulching, the cherry-picking running, the smack talking....ect

                         Boy Lusche hit the nail on the head. The noobs havnt learned the cheap shots yet so how can they pull em?











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[Lusche]

Would it be so horrible to have them start out in EW or MW to gain perkies to come in LW and buy rides? Really?

Yes.

[Ack-Ack]

Hell, I'd pay alot more for just an arena that only 2 year or more "vets" could play in.

Then you'd get an arena of "vets" HOing.  You kid yourself if you think only n00bs and two-week wonders HO in the La-7 or any other plane for that matter. 

I know it pains a lot to read it but Lusche hit it squarely on the nail with his reasons why most cry about perking the La-7.  For all the cries to perk it, no one has been able to offer any concrete evidence on how the La-7 unbalances the arena.


ack-ack

[Coshy]

Would it be so horrible to have them start out in EW or MW to gain perkies to come in LW and buy rides? Really?

Yes.

One of the greatest things about AHII vs. all/most other MMOs is the lack of leveling/grinding. Wether you call it gaining XP or gaining perks or farming for gold, it still amounts to grinding away for hours so you can get the next 'uber' thing, be it the fairy princess slipper, Haubrek of Awesomeness or F4U-C. With AHII I can up nearly ANY plane in the set and pit my skills against yours and 99% of the time, the better cartoon pilot will win. I dont have to spend hours in a place I don't want to be, flying a plane I don't want to fly just to have the opportunity to finially compete on an even playing field in The Elite Arena.

To go along with the brilliant idea of making new people grind away in EW/MW, lets also start tossing perk point values out on armament loadouts and bombs. Want the big cookie on your lanc? Cough up some perks. Want the large ammo loadout on your 110? Cough up some perks. Want to add the slipper tank to your spit? Cough up some perks. How about 2500 lbs worth of bombs and 10 rockets on your Jug? Cough up some perks.

Eventually, following your line of thought, everything will have a perk value and only those who are really good will have the perks to fly late war planes with bombs and drop tanks, leaving the rest of us to wallow around in our B5Ns launching torpedos at supply barges.

[Carwash]

I can't believe you would even ask why the pony should be perked sir. It's fast, turns quit well, handles extremely well at high alt and above average at low alt, it call haul an arsenal of bombs and rockets and can "fly" forever on a tank of fuel, the 50cals (although not deadly in small numbers) are like lazers and are easy to aim. Pony IMO is the best all-around MA plane in the game. The -4 would probably rank right up there for me if I used them more but I've just never been a F4 fan and hate the fact that you can't see well behind you. 

Can you tell me why the Tempy is perked? A pony will eat it for lunch in a turn fight, speeds are pretty much the same, fuel is limited in the temp. So, other than the canons I just don't see why that has a 40 (give or take) perk and the pony or the LA doesn't have ANY?   

Makes NO SENSE

1.  With 4 Hispanos, even a snapshot from a Tempest can end your flight.

2.  Tempest is faster at low/med altitude where most fights in AH occur.

3.  Tempest will outclimb the Pony.

4.  Sorry, but the Tempest will out-turn the Pony.

[Lusche]

One of the greatest things about AHII vs. all/most other MMOs is the lack of leveling/grinding. Wether you call it gaining XP or gaining perks or farming for gold, it still amounts to grinding away for hours so you can get the next 'uber' thing, be it the fairy princess slipper, Haubrek of Awesomeness or F4U-C. With AHII I can up nearly ANY plane in the set and pit my skills against yours and 99% of the time, the better cartoon pilot will win. I dont have to spend hours in a place I don't want to be, flying a plane I don't want to fly just to have the opportunity to finially compete on an even playing field in The Elite Arena.

I think I will save this for future reference. Well said. 

[snowey]

1.  With 4 Hispanos, even a snapshot from a Tempest can end your flight.

2.  Tempest is faster at low/med altitude where most fights in AH occur.

3.  Tempest will outclimb the Pony.

4.  Sorry, but the Tempest will out-turn the Pony.

it is the 3 fastes fighter down low with wep beaten by the 163 and 262 fastest prop plane

[Coshy]

it is the 3 fastes fighter down low with wep beaten by the 163 and 262 fastest prop plane

I hate to bag on ya man, but do you even stop for a second to think about what you are posting before you hit the 'post' button?

[Coshy]

I think I will save this for future reference. Well said. 

Feel free to use it as you see fit, and thank you.