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Offline Kweassa

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Re: Hurricane IIC...FM Odd?
« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2008, 09:39:04 PM »

 I have a fleeting suspicion that this is a Hizooka/Gunnery related issue, rather than a FM related one.

 People, even experienced vets, tend to get the impression that they "cannot shake the guy behind him", when the guy behind him lands pings and hits out to long distances. - despite the fact that the distance is growing between the two planes.

 So, what could be happening is, that the distance is actually growing when you try and outdive a Hurricane... but the problem is, the Hurri pilot lobs and sprays Hizookas which may land a hit even upto +600 distances. When something falls apart, you get the feeling the Hurri2C is keeping up with you.

 
 

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Re: Hurricane IIC...FM Odd?
« Reply #46 on: March 27, 2008, 10:36:23 PM »
I tried this simple test tonight to compare the Hurricane IIC and the F4U-4

- I took both planes up to 15k with with 50% fuel
- I chopped throttle until they were right on the edge of stalling
- I dove straight down, full throttle with wep to 5k
- and finally zoom climbed straight back up in the vertical with a very gentle back pressure on the the stick

The Hurricane IIC climbed back up to 10k before stalling out.
The F4U-4 climbed all the way back up to 15k before stalling out (essentially lost no E)

Basically that's a 1 mile difference.

Conclusion: the Hurricane IIC can in no way compete with the F4U-4 when it comes to zoom climbs and E retention.




I not talking about a -4, very few planes can stay with a -4 in a zoom.  Try a -1 series.
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Re: Hurricane IIC...FM Odd?
« Reply #47 on: March 27, 2008, 10:42:23 PM »
I not talking about a -4, very few planes can stay with a -4 in a zoom.  Try a -1 series.

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Re: Hurricane IIC...FM Odd?
« Reply #48 on: March 27, 2008, 11:14:04 PM »
I not talking about a -4, very few planes can stay with a -4 in a zoom.  Try a -1 series.

Did a few trials with the -1. I got it to zoom back up to 13k consistently.  About what I expected - not quite as good as the -4, but still 3k more than the Hurricane.

What hurts the -1 more than anything is it generates tremendous speed and starts compressing - which makes for a bit of a lagged recovery.  The -4 has no such problems.
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Re: Hurricane IIC...FM Odd?
« Reply #49 on: March 27, 2008, 11:24:17 PM »
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Did a few trials with the -1. I got it to zoom back up to 13k consistently.  About what I expected - not quite as good as the -4, but still 3k more than the Hurricane.

What hurts the -1 more than anything is it generates tremendous speed and starts compressing - which makes for a bit of a lagged recovery.  The -4 has no such problems.

 ...which, seems to suggest my theory is starting to look more valid.. :D

 

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Re: Hurricane IIC...FM Odd?
« Reply #50 on: March 28, 2008, 12:26:48 AM »
...which, seems to suggest my theory is starting to look more valid.. :D

 

Yep I tend to agree...
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Re: Hurricane IIC...FM Odd?
« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2008, 06:14:06 AM »
I often wondered about the hurri IIC myself.  I have been chased by these planes in my hog in a dive and the catch me.  If I remember correctly, a hurri should never be able to catch a hog in a dive coalt.  Let alone stay with a hog in a 450+ mph turn like they have and not break a single part.
and i thought it was odd wen it caught my pony D doing almost 500 in a dive, but turning at 450 in a hurricane IIC? no chance, i cant even keep wings on it at 450, how someone turn it?!  :cry :cry
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