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Offline Airscrew

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Re: My "safe" neighborhood
« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2008, 07:47:30 PM »
Airscrew forgets there are other societies around the world that have no guns at all, and a negligible homicide rate. Assuming he ever knew that in the first place to have been able to forget it in the second place.  :lol
I have no idea what your statement has to do with my reply to your statement.  I never said there are places in the world that are unaffected by gun violence... I said you forget there are places that have guns bans already and criminals still have guns.

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Yeah, it's great having guns. Only thing is that if the law allows it, the criminals have got them too - in spades.
Which I take to mean, If we had laws to ban guns then we wouldnt have criminals with guns.

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Candlemas forgets that there are citys that have laws to keep guns out of the hands of law abiding americans and still criminals got them.... In Spades...
Washington DC has a handgun ban but still criminals have guns but law abiding people do not.  So laws banning guns do not keep guns out of the hands of criminals.

In my opinion, the only way a gun ban works is if you take every weapon (gun, rifle, shotgun, etc) ever made and destroy them.  Disarm the police, military, burn down all the weapon, ammo, gun powder manufacturing plants, and throw everything in the ocean.

And that Mr. Shades, is not going to happen.... So as long as 1 guy has a weapon, I want one to.  And thats the way its been for thousands of years


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Re: My "safe" neighborhood
« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2008, 08:00:11 PM »
Create a shade account just to say with your post #1?  :lol Smoooth!

Actually, that's not the 2nd amendment at work. The pansy thugs will have guns whether or not any amendment is present allowing it.  It's the rest of us that benefit from any of the amendments.

*edit* Actually, you may not be man enough to go down this road with me... if you have to create a shades account just to say it.  So please do us both a favor, and don't respond.
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Re: My "safe" neighborhood
« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2008, 09:12:45 PM »
There's a bad part of Annapolis Maryland named Eastport.  It's just over the bridge.  The crime has gotten so bad in there that the Police don't even turn on their flashers and sirens anymore when entering it.  If they did, you'd be woken up once every hour in the night.
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Re: My "safe" neighborhood
« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2008, 09:21:24 PM »
I send my son out to get into the car this morning (intending to be a few steps behind him), and hear gun shots from right outside our home. He runs back in & locks the door (smart kid).

I go outside & see the cop who lives across the street peel off in his car (I didn't know he was a cop until this morning when he turned the lights inside of his car on.  I guess he's a new neighbor, since I don't recall ever having seen him before today, either).

Then later in the morning another son calls me to bring him something at his school.  As I'm walking out of his school, I hear screaming and a ton of gun shots from the surrounding neighborhood.

Further down my street, there's another cop.  He was shot outside of his home a few months back. When I googled it this morning, that news article that details that particular shooting has disappeared ~ and in it's place is a news article which appears to have replaced it, omitting entirely that he's a cop... and even changes the line of events.

And even now as I'm typing this I hear more sirens.  When we moved into this neighborhood just a few short years ago, this was considered to be one of the "safer" parts of town.  I am soooo ready to leave our neighborhood.
jeeze!!!! you have to move........that's no place for someone nice(im going by what i read about you in here). it also makes me more thankful for the neighborhood i live in....it's still free of things like that....heck.i've fallen asleep with my front door wide open, and my garage open...and when i park my car in the garage, i leave the keys in the ignition...but nothing touched.....
please, stay safe and get the heck outta there!!!! i don't wanna have to read a thread about you getting hurt..or worse!!

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Re: My "safe" neighborhood
« Reply #49 on: April 24, 2008, 09:22:11 PM »
Texas needs gun control...it sounds like it's getting out of hand.

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uumm......the places with the strictest gun control, are actually the most dangerous.
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Re: My "safe" neighborhood
« Reply #50 on: April 24, 2008, 09:25:10 PM »
if only you could see the people that live in the dumpy apartments up the road i dont think you would mind. It just makes me mad that the cops drive up and down the street and these people slow down untill the cops leave and they are right back to doing it...

i'd be willing to bet that some of your own neighbors are doing it too....not just the people in the "dumpy" apartments. did ya ever thing that maybe there's nice people in some of them, but that's all they can afford?

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Re: My "safe" neighborhood
« Reply #51 on: April 24, 2008, 09:35:32 PM »
Yeah, it's great having guns. Only thing is that if the law allows it, the criminals have got them too - in spades.


dude.....criminals will ALWAYS have guns, regardless of the law. i can go to camden right now(it's 10:30 at night) and for $500.00 or less, i can have a decent gun. tonight. just like the criminals do. i don't though. in nj to do it legally, ya have to go through local, and i think state police, then ya can buy one. i would do it legally, but i have other things i have to spend my money on.......but i DO thank god that i live in a country where it's my choice....and hope it remains as such for all of our sakes, as those who own them are gonna someday be the ones protecting and helping the rest of us....i think..........i'm gonna stop now.........
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Re: My "safe" neighborhood
« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2008, 09:36:25 PM »
Candlemas forgets that there are citys that have laws to keep guns out of the hands of law abiding americans and still criminals got them.... In Spades...

look at our capital......no further argument needed
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Re: My "safe" neighborhood
« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2008, 09:38:19 PM »
I have no idea what your statement has to do with my reply to your statement.  I never said there are places in the world that are unaffected by gun violence... I said you forget there are places that have guns bans already and criminals still have guns.

you sayWhich I take to mean, If we had laws to ban guns then we wouldnt have criminals with guns.

I repliedWashington DC has a handgun ban but still criminals have guns but law abiding people do not.  So laws banning guns do not keep guns out of the hands of criminals.

In my opinion, the only way a gun ban works is if you take every weapon (gun, rifle, shotgun, etc) ever made and destroy them.  Disarm the police, military, burn down all the weapon, ammo, gun powder manufacturing plants, and throw everything in the ocean.

And that Mr. Shades, is not going to happen.... So as long as 1 guy has a weapon, I want one to.  And thats the way its been for thousands of years



but then they'll come for us archery types :O
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Re: My "safe" neighborhood
« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2008, 10:56:29 PM »
If you should decide to stay there, then I would definitely recommend getting a Class III fully automatic weapon to protect your home with.   This would give you a big edge in protecting your family from any armed thugs and hoodlums.

Texas is one of the states that still allows for ownership of  Class III weapons.   A dealer in Central Texas has detailed instructions available online to help any Texas citizen who wants to get a license to get a Class III firearm.   Feel free to check it out here:

http://www.spreadfirearms.com/class3citizen.html

The only gotcha in doing this is that your local Chief of Police has to approve your license.   And they are not required by law to do so in Texas, even if your criminal record is clean.   But most Police Chiefs and Sheriffs in Texas are pro-gun ownership, so your odds are actually pretty decent that they would, as long as you have a clean record.

Mac-10 9mm submachine guns are pretty popular with Moms for self-defense.   It would definitely be one to check out, like this lady here:

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You have to be a troll. A pretty damn good troll. Either that, or you really are close to being mentally retarded.    You are the type of blood thirsty retarded gun owner that makes the rest of us look bad. 
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« Reply #55 on: April 25, 2008, 02:19:50 AM »
.......but i DO thank god that i live in a country where it's my choice....
I for one do not propose taking that choice from you. The only problem is that while you get to choose whether or not to be armed, you DON'T get to choose whether the criminals are armed. That choice has been made for you. You could argue that it's better that way, but when I read threads like this plus the violence in Chicago thread, plus VA Tech, plus Columbine-type threads, plus... well, you know - makes you wonder.

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« Reply #56 on: April 25, 2008, 03:18:13 AM »
Mom, I would advise you to not only get out of that neighborhood, but out of Killeen period. You know my reasons.
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Re: My "safe" neighborhood
« Reply #57 on: April 25, 2008, 07:49:32 AM »
I for one do not propose taking that choice from you. The only problem is that while you get to choose whether or not to be armed, you DON'T get to choose whether the criminals are armed. That choice has been made for you. You could argue that it's better that way, but when I read threads like this plus the violence in Chicago thread, plus VA Tech, plus Columbine-type threads, plus... well, you know - makes you wonder.

the fact that thatr choice is already made makes it that much more important. like someone said earlier..the onlyl way to stop violence with guns it to take them from virtually everyone.....including the military, police, and destroy all equipment to make them. that cannot and never will happen. this means we need to deal with the situation as best as we can, and truthfully, allowing the people to bear arms, is the best solution. i do believe the police in most states have no issue with RESPONSIBLE citizens owning guns. they take the proper training, and continually practice. i also do believe that i recall reading somewhere a few years back that some regions of the US that didn't before allow citizens to carry, changed that law, allowing them to carry their guns......and violent crime dropped siginificantly.

 the colombine thing......i believe those weapons were legal.....and the parents of those kids should be hald more responsible than those kids.....the guns weren't secured properly obvously, as the kids got them. i also think i remember something about the kids there planting explosive devices around the school? again, the parents......there HAD to have been signs of something going terribly wrong in these kids minds. a parent should've noticed that behaviour change in his or her kid......if not, then i would thing a friend, or a schoolmate.

 the VA tech thing./...i believe there were a few reports of this person being angry, and changing recently before this happened. again, someone that knew him, should have said something. on the other side of that though, imagine if only ONE of the victems or someone in the local vicinity was carrying and had the proper training? that incedent could've/would've been over very quickly.
 that is the advantage to allowing properly trained citizens to carry. picture it this way. imagine you're the badguy. you live in DC......you know for fact that you can walk into the local convienence store, and pull your illegally obtained gun on the cashier, and nothing bad will most likely hapen to you unless a police officer walks in. same on the subway or train stations. now take the same situation and go to florida(i think they allow carrying of concealed guns ther, but not sure) or any other place that allows ou to carry. you again walk into the convienence store.....but you realize that that guy in the last isle may have a gun, as well as the guy behind the counter....not to mention anyone else that may alk in, or see what you're doing, and just wait outside for you. so what're you going to do? you're going to leave without ever doing anything this time.....unless you're stupid..then you're probably going to get heurt or die.
 i respect your opinion, and again thank god i live in a country that i/we can freely express our opinions, but at least maybe now you can see the need for more citizens being able to protect themselves. the police have one of the hardest jobs in the country, and are never thanked for it....and they cannot be everywhere at once. heck, there's some places that even THEY try to avoid i think.....and it's due to these types of laws.

 on a final note, we don't need anymore gun control laws....we need to more aggressivly prosecute the criminals that use them in crimes.

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Re: My "safe" neighborhood
« Reply #58 on: April 25, 2008, 08:52:38 AM »
jeeze!!!! you have to move........that's no place for someone nice(im going by what i read about you in here). <<S>>

Boy, did I feel like a major heel after reading that right after seeing what I said to candlemas.  :uhoh
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Re: My "safe" neighborhood
« Reply #59 on: April 25, 2008, 09:28:15 AM »
I wouldn't worry too much about it Texasmom. We all know your pretty nice most of the time :D


Besides it was a decent.............
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