General Gun Discussion

[Angus]

wrag, could you define gun control.
Most countries, including the USA has one form of it or another.
However, the USA seperates from the western world with a much more liberal gun control. As well as higher crime rate and more death by firearms.
And BTW, the 13 million jews were not that many, and most of them were not from Germany, but occupied countries defeated in war.
NIce to see how straight facts can be...well, facts are facts.

[SteveBailey]

wrag, could you define gun control.
Most countries, including the USA has one form of it or another.
 As well as higher crime rate

Higher crime rate than who?

[Angus]

In which country are guns completely banned?
The Vatican maybe?

Just to get rid of the misunderstanding. . . .

[Kaw1000]

Shooting in Butte , Montana
Shotgun preteen vs. illegal alien Home Invaders:

Butte, Montana November 5, 2007

Two illegal aliens, Raphael Resides, 23, and Enrico Garza, 26, probably believed they would easily overpower home-alone 11 year old Patricia Harrington after her father had left their two-story home.

It seems the two crooks never learned two things: they were in Montana and Patricia had been a clay shooting champion since she was nine.

Patricia was in her upstairs room when the two men broke through the front door of the house. She quickly ran to her father's room and grabbed his 12 gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun.

Resides was the first to get up to the second floor only to be the first to catch a near point blank blast of buckshot from the 11-year-old's knee crouch aim. He suffered fatal wounds to his abdomen and genitals.

When Garza ran to the foot of the stairs, he took a blast to the left shoulder and staggered out into the street where he bled to death before medical help could arrive.


It was found out later that Resides was armed with a stolen 45 caliber handgun he took from another home invasion robbery. That victim, 50-year-old David Burien, was not so lucky. He died from stab wounds to the chest.

Ever wonder why good stuff never makes NBC, CBS, PBS, MSNBC, CNN, or ABC news........an 11 year old girl, properly trained, defended her home, and herself......against two murderous, illegal immigrants......and she wins, she is still alive.

Now that is Gun Control !

Thought for the day:

 

 

 

Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist'

[Angus]

Where I live the Mosberg is quite legal. However the handgun isn't

[Mr No Name]

WTG Mossberg girl!  I will be glad when we finally expel these 30,000,000 criminals that have invaded our country.


EDIT: I just read the snopes thing too, i usually go there FIRST before kneejerk replying to posts like this but the last part of my post still stands!

[Charon]

Alas, an urban legend according to Snopes.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/homeinvasion.asp

But, they did offer up this smiliar story:

http://www.khou.com/news/local/stories/khou061228_ac_crosbyshooting.547846d3.html
 
Charon

[Kaw1000]

Darn...sorry guys it was and E-mail sent by a gun loving friend...sorry.......I need to get
my storys from NRA Magazines next time...I know they are correct.

[CAP1]

Shooting in Butte , Montana
Shotgun preteen vs. illegal alien Home Invaders:

Butte, Montana November 5, 2007

Two illegal aliens, Raphael Resides, 23, and Enrico Garza, 26, probably believed they would easily overpower home-alone 11 year old Patricia Harrington after her father had left their two-story home.

It seems the two crooks never learned two things: they were in Montana and Patricia had been a clay shooting champion since she was nine.

Patricia was in her upstairs room when the two men broke through the front door of the house. She quickly ran to her father's room and grabbed his 12 gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun.

Resides was the first to get up to the second floor only to be the first to catch a near point blank blast of buckshot from the 11-year-old's knee crouch aim. He suffered fatal wounds to his abdomen and genitals.

When Garza ran to the foot of the stairs, he took a blast to the left shoulder and staggered out into the street where he bled to death before medical help could arrive.


It was found out later that Resides was armed with a stolen 45 caliber handgun he took from another home invasion robbery. That victim, 50-year-old David Burien, was not so lucky. He died from stab wounds to the chest.

Ever wonder why good stuff never makes NBC, CBS, PBS, MSNBC, CNN, or ABC news........an 11 year old girl, properly trained, defended her home, and herself......against two murderous, illegal immigrants......and she wins, she is still alive.

Now that is Gun Control !

Thought for the day:

 

 

 

Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist'

good for her!!!!!
thisis what i was talkling about in the other thread about keeping yourself current and practiced.....if not for her father's help, and her skill, this oor girl could've ended up dead.....but instead, 2 illegals that deserved it are..

thanks for posting!!

BTW......your icon thingy to the left......downright scary and disturbing

[Vulcan]

good for her!!!!!
thisis what i was talkling about in the other thread about keeping yourself current and practiced.....if not for her father's help, and her skill, this oor girl could've ended up dead.....but instead, 2 illegals that deserved it are..

thanks for posting!!

BTW......your icon thingy to the left......downright scary and disturbing

Read up, it got snopesified.

[Kaw1000]

Yes it got snoopifyed but there are many storys like these...real ones....I will share a few soon!!

[wrag]

wrag, could you define gun control.
Most countries, including the USA has one form of it or another.
However, the USA seperates from the western world with a much more liberal gun control. As well as higher crime rate and more death by firearms.
And BTW, the 13 million jews were not that many, and most of them were not from Germany, but occupied countries defeated in war.
NIce to see how straight facts can be...well, facts are facts.

So I must ask some questions here.........

You're not a dense person right?

You do understand the POINT of the article?

You're not deliberately trying to be OBTUSE?

As to who they were (Jews) it actually matters what country they were in at the time?

It also seems to be a point with you somehow that 13 million was enough to upset you and  just 1 million somehow isn't?

As to gun control?

What? Are you saying it has NOT been discussed on the board enough that you lack understanding of where many stand on the issue?

Facts are facts?

The issue isn't so much the high numbers of people that have been KILLED by their own GOVERNMENTS but that they were FIRST DISARMED!

You gonna bring in the U.N. now?  Before you do lets look at the Belgian Congo FIRST and how those people successfully defended themselves against their attackers and then the U.N. stepped in DISARMED them and then departed LEAVING them at the mercy of their attackers.

SURPRISE they no longer had the means to defend themselves and were KILLED...........

Perhaps MURDERED would be a better word?

The issue?

DISARMED BEFORE THEY WERE MURDERED BY THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT?

Does that mean anything to you?

[Gaidin]

I don't have the link anymore but think it was by Susan Gaita Hupp?

She later went on to political office, think in Texas.

YOU KNOW how she voted on firearms issues!

IIRC she was in a cafe with her family having dinner.

Some crazy rammed the cafe and then got out went inside and started shooting people.

She lost both her parents there.

She was OBEYING the law, she had a permit but no one was allowed to carry in a restaurant or such places and her firearm was in her vehicle.

She was VERY angry with the politicians there after.  I think to some degree she blamed the politicians and their laws for the needless loss of her parents and the lives of others.

I meant the link to the speech where Obama made the statement that is referenced in the article you posted.

[CAP1]

Read up, it got snopesified.

uumm.....whoops?

[wrongwayric]

Hey, if anyone tries to light a cigarette around me I'll shoot it out of their damn mouth. The only smoking I like is the smoking from my gun. 

So your saying it's alright to have/use the "choice" to have a gun but not me a a cigarette? Once again it's about being a responsible owner/user. I don't smoke around people that object and i would expect you would have the courtesy to respect my right to smoke if i want, the same as i respect yours to own a gun. It's that type of attitude your displaying that has become the norm, i want "MY" freedom of choice but no on elses! You don't like cigarettes, fine don't smoke them, but don't get upset when someone hates your gun and wants to take it away. Fair is fair after all and you don't really need that "choice" to have a gun. Why? Because someone doesn't like it that's why.