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Offline crockett

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Can we just rename it?
« on: May 24, 2008, 10:51:28 AM »
This game has little to do with Aces or actual fighter combat...

Lets just call the game what it really is..

Toolsheders vs Gangtards

Just toss in some air spawns and and instant power up blinky things and I'm sure that will make the average AHer happy. I just flew that last 2 hours and not a single sortie could I get a 1 on 1 fight. It was either a minimum of 4 vs 1 or nothing. Any chance of a 1 on 1 soon ended by the so called other pilot diving to the deck or running to his buddies.

Of course the toolsheders can't be left out. I mean hell they have a map to play on the size of Texas but what base do they capture? Why of course the one base that provided the only 3 way fight on the map.

I keep taking these short breaks hoping when I come back maybe just maybe something changed... I always end up being disappointed sad to say. One of these days I think I'm just gonna take a break that I don't come back from. There is really little to be desired anymore if you actually enjoy air combat that don't consist of being one of the 6 tards on the noob train chasing the single enemy.
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2008, 10:54:18 AM »
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2008, 11:26:01 AM »
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2008, 11:45:49 AM »
This game has little to do with Aces or actual fighter combat...

Lets just call the game what it really is..

Toolsheders vs Gangtards

Just toss in some air spawns and and instant power up blinky things and I'm sure that will make the average AHer happy. I just flew that last 2 hours and not a single sortie could I get a 1 on 1 fight. It was either a minimum of 4 vs 1 or nothing. Any chance of a 1 on 1 soon ended by the so called other pilot diving to the deck or running to his buddies.

Of course the toolsheders can't be left out. I mean hell they have a map to play on the size of Texas but what base do they capture? Why of course the one base that provided the only 3 way fight on the map.

I keep taking these short breaks hoping when I come back maybe just maybe something changed... I always end up being disappointed sad to say. One of these days I think I'm just gonna take a break that I don't come back from. There is really little to be desired anymore if you actually enjoy air combat that don't consist of being one of the 6 tards on the noob train chasing the single enemy.

well.....depends..if you're a bnz'er, some will get fed up with evading, and attempt to pull you past a friendly. i had to resort to this the other night, although the guy never folowed me down enough. so i chanced tactics, and each time i evaded him, i gained alt. by the time i got co-alt, he decided to run. with me in a p38, him in a ponyB, i couldn't catch him. o well.......


try checking out MW..we like to fight there. not normally too many hotards or alt monkeys there.

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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2008, 11:51:05 AM »
I'm a slow learner so, I'm liking some aspects of the game.

Let's face it, the prediction code / collision code needs work.  As it stands, you can spray someone with a nanosecond burst and BOOM...and other times, same planes you can spray with cannon rounds (YOU THINK you are hitting them) and nothing happens.  What YOU see and what the server sees is totally different. 

Thus, 1v1 is still always going to be unbalanced.  So you have to take the game as a whole. 

If it's 1v1's you want you have three options.
1. dueling server
2. fly HIGH over a contested town and look for that 1v1, you will probably find it at around 15-20k...but have a buddy 5k behind you in case HIS buddy 5k behind him decides to jump in.
3. LOOK for it.  You can't just spawn and expect 1v1's.  They didn't happen in real life that often you know?  I like to look around the towns where the numbers are equal and the battle is in between bases.  I usually fly away from the middle of the line a bit, and usually that's where you will meet up with someone else trying to sneak in for bomb drops.  Happens to me all the time.  I have to drop my bombs/rockets and duke it out.  Unfortunately however there usually is another guy with him or behind him.   There is much to be learned with a 1 vs 2 (you being the 1).  For me it usually ends in being sixed and not being able to shake them.  Although I did this inverted loop with my mosquito the other night and was amazed to see the aircraft that was on my six was now flying low RIGHT below me.  I upped the wep, knifed over and sixed him. :)  1 down 1 to go.  The other guy in a p50run took off.  Yay.

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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2008, 11:53:47 AM »
I've been flying a Spit XVI most of this camp just because of this.  I fly right into the biggest red dar bar of gang tardlettes I can find and I've continually suprised myself with how many scalps I can fly away with.  To top it off, along the way I've had some really fun one on one and two on ones.
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2008, 12:00:40 PM »
Why's everyone so desperate for one on ones?
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2008, 12:10:25 PM »
well.....depends..if you're a bnz'er, some will get fed up with evading, and attempt to pull you past a friendly. i had to resort to this the other night, although the guy never folowed me down enough. so i chanced tactics, and each time i evaded him, i gained alt. by the time i got co-alt, he decided to run. with me in a p38, him in a ponyB, i couldn't catch him. o well.......


try checking out MW..we like to fight there. not normally too many hotards or alt monkeys there.

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Nope I rarely ever BnZ unless I'm in a sea of red and even then I don't like doing it. If it's a 1 on 1 I always drop alt to make a fair fight if I have an advantage. I have more fun being at a dis-advange within reason of course (ie I don't like being BnZed in a 1 on 1 thats just lame). I almost always fly early war planes in the MA because if I get in a good fight I want it to be a challenge and I'm hoping if I'm in a plane others think suck maybe they will be more willing to fight.

This has nothing to do with me having an advantage. It's always the same anymore, I will purposely bait people into fights by giving them my six or what ever I can do to make sure they don't run at the start. However it never fails soon as you reverse them or you work that advantage away from them, the average player dives to the deck or runs to their buddies. They just can't fight with out the advantage so rather that trying the better option seems to be run away.

I don't think I'm some fighter ace god or anything and I'm not trying to sound like that. I don't care if I'm at a disadvantage, I still don't run from a fight assuming I'm not RTB or in a damaged plane. I am always willing to fight and I could care less if I get killed in a good fight.

If I get out flown in a good fight by another player, then that's 10 times more fun to me than landing 5 or 6 easy kills. I just can't understand who can actually be satisfied by being the 4th or 5th guy on a single con trying to get the kill? That's just freaking retarded.

The sad part is, there is really no place in this game anymore for people who just want to dogfight. It's quite simply just go Furball and stay in your hoard shooting at anything you can or tool shedding and base taking.

There seems to be no more room anymore for guys that wanna drift the edges looking for a good fight.. Because 90% of the time if you find a lone con he's damn sure not sticking around for a fight. Most likely you would just be and interruption in that radar that must die..
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2008, 12:13:17 PM »
Let's face it, the prediction code / collision code needs work.  As it stands, you can spray someone with a nanosecond burst and BOOM...and other times, same planes you can spray with cannon rounds (YOU THINK you are hitting them) and nothing happens.  What YOU see and what the server sees is totally different.

The server "sees" nothing.  All that matters is what you see on your front end...period.

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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2008, 12:14:53 PM »
Why's everyone so desperate for one on ones?

Because maybe some of us enjoy a good fight and like to put our skills up against another.
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2008, 12:15:06 PM »
Why's everyone so desperate for one on ones?
OK, so you sign up for a dogfighting game and log on only to see hordes of ganger/runners hoping to find a vulch.  The moment you find any con even close to a co-alt fight, they dive and fly under a horde of friendlies.  So you make a decision, look at the map and find a friendly horde to get in, and do exactly what the other teams are doing to you.  Avoid fighting anything that carries even the slightest risk of them getting guns on you, so that you might overwhelm a base and get a vuclh going.  Go and land your cherries and vulches and get great amounts of praise on 200 as if you actually did something that took skill.


This is what AH is turning into, everyone checking scores to see who got the most vulch sorties in a row to get the highest fighter score without actually "fighting" anything.  Very lame, and not something that people who like the adrenalin of the fight would be interested in. :aok  

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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2008, 12:18:51 PM »
OK, so you sign up for a dogfighting game and log on only to see hordes of ganger/runners hoping to find a vulch.  The moment you find any con even close to a co-alt fight, they dive and fly under a horde of friendlies.  So you make a decision, look at the map and find a friendly horde to get in, and do exactly what the other teams are doing to you.  Avoid fighting anything that carries even the slightest risk of them getting guns on you, so that you might overwhelm a base and get a vuclh going.  Go and land your cherries and vulches and get great amounts of praise on 200 as if you actually did something that took skill.


This is what AH is turning into, everyone checking scores to see who got the most vulch sorties in a row to get the highest fighter score without actually "fighting" anything.  Very lame, and not something that people who like the adrenalin of the fight would be interested in. :aok  

Yep, pretty much sums up the game anymore..

I was gonna suggest renaming it to "Vulchers & Gangtards" but I didn't want to leave the tool shedders out.   :salute
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2008, 12:19:42 PM »
I was gonna suggest renaming it to "Vulchers & Gangtards" but I didn't want to leave the tool shedders out.   :salute

You left out whiners.

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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2008, 12:22:23 PM »
OK, so you sign up for a dogfighting game and log on only to see hordes of ganger/runners hoping to find a vulch.  The moment you find any con even close to a co-alt fight, they dive and fly under a horde of friendlies.  So you make a decision, look at the map and find a friendly horde to get in, and do exactly what the other teams are doing to you.  Avoid fighting anything that carries even the slightest risk of them getting guns on you, so that you might overwhelm a base and get a vuclh going.  Go and land your cherries and vulches and get great amounts of praise on 200 as if you actually did something that took skill.


This is what AH is turning into, everyone checking scores to see who got the most vulch sorties in a row to get the highest fighter score without actually "fighting" anything.  Very lame, and not something that people who like the adrenalin of the fight would be interested in. :aok  

know what haPPENED LAST TIME I TRIED VULCHING?  i flew into the ground!  :rofl :rofl
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2008, 12:24:24 PM »
You left out whiners.

Don't you have a base to vulch or a hoard to fly in.. or is it a slow day in squeaksville.
« Last Edit: May 24, 2008, 01:34:02 PM by crockett »
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