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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #45 on: May 24, 2008, 03:09:55 PM »
If HT started charging by the hour so only the hard core guys would play then maybe you could get more air combat to your liking. Kind of like the old Air Warrior days when it cost $6.00 and hour plus long distance charges.
bet it'd become a ghost town too.
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #46 on: May 24, 2008, 04:41:06 PM »
Making a point about how many play this way nowadays is a valid discussion, make sure you understand the point before you make comments like this. :aok

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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #47 on: May 24, 2008, 04:46:46 PM »
A whine is still a whine  :aok

You are whining about a whine, which make your whine all the more funny. Now I'm whining about you whining about a whine, but hey I guess anything is a whine if we go with your theory on whines. Oh wait there is yet another whine.. Sheez where wil they end?  :aok
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #48 on: May 24, 2008, 04:47:49 PM »
Sky I understand the point. Changing  the path of least resistance mentality is an uphill battle. It's the same mentality kids have when they DL every cheat code for a console game. They want it all and they want it now.
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #49 on: May 24, 2008, 04:49:37 PM »
A whine is still a whine  :aok
no, usually I only hear people claim others are whining when they have little skill or knowlege of the topic of discussion.....not much unlike yourself! :aok

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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2008, 05:07:03 PM »
You are whining about a whine, which make your whine all the more funny. Now I'm whining about you whining about a whine, but hey I guess anything is a whine if we go with your theory on whines. Oh wait there is yet another whine.. Sheez where wil they end?  :aok

Sounds like your buddy skyrock needs to explain what a whine is (at least what he thinks it is).  :aok

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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2008, 05:17:00 PM »
Have you ever flown in the DA? It's worse than the MA with all the gangtards in furball lake. Sure you can get some duals going in private sections in there but I've never really been into that. TBH I just don't like the private duals in most cases, I like to run into a random fight where you never know who or what the other plane is or what alt they will be.

I'm just not into the whole, fly the same plane as the other guy at a set alt. 


Ummm...so you don't like a gentlemanly match/duel OR the random madness that is the MA? I just don't understand. The private duel GUARANTEES a good dogfight. If one prefers to fly in an enviroment where player behavior is not codified and regulated but is the random product of individual wills interacting, one can't really complain if it evolves away from what one may consider ideal. One can love it or hate it, but gang warfare (which is what the MA is) rewards unscrupulous, treacherous, dirty fighting.


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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2008, 05:27:54 PM »

Ummm...so you don't like a gentlemanly match/duel OR the random madness that is the MA? I just don't understand. The private duel GUARANTEES a good dogfight. If one prefers to fly in an enviroment where player behavior is not codified and regulated but is the random product of individual wills interacting, one can't really complain if it evolves away from what one may consider ideal. One can love it or hate it, but gang warfare (which is what the MA is) rewards unscrupulous, treacherous, dirty fighting.



Did you watch the film? Can you give me any reason why the average AH player can't just leave a fight alone when it's already 2 vs 1 or 3 vs 1. I just want to know what these tards get out of being the 4th, 5th or 6th tard chasing a single con.

There used to be a bit more respect for the fight, people used to speak up about ganging and it was polite to ask before just jumping in on a fight. Now it's all about the kills and their score at the end of the month or getting wtg's for landing 4 or 5 noskill kills. You don't see anything wrong with that?

Is it really that much to ask, that people let a fight go on? I'm not expecting to fly into a furball full of red and not have anyone shoot at me, however why is it the noob bellybutton mentally of see red must kill it even if I'm the 5th guy trying?


oh and Donzo why are you even in this topic? You have yet to even post one useful response.
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #53 on: May 24, 2008, 05:42:19 PM »
Yea your right.. I must be playing wrong game. Here I thought this game was about air combat not trying to rack up as many easy kills as I could land. I expected to have a good fight with a con or two that was also out skirting the edges of a furball looking for a good fight. What on earth was I thinking, it's pretty clear this isn't that game I thought it was.

For some odd reason I thought Aces High was about air combat not air quake.

How many people in the MA at the time? 200+?  Hard to find a 1 vs 1 with those kinda #'s
Try MW or EW. You will find 1vs1 real easy.
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #54 on: May 24, 2008, 06:04:11 PM »
Well, it is a game, so morality doesn't really come in to it. I see it as kind of silly to be in a horde chasing a lone guy for a 1 in 5 chance of getting the kill on the guy, and I see it as ineffective tactics for all those guys to give up alt and E to horde one target. On the other hand, the opportunity to bust a conga line of fixated chasers off a friendly's six can be most satisfying.

See, for me, the duel is the way to enjoy the chess-game aspect of ACM, usually with someone I like. Whereas, MA fighting IMHO is not usually about the chess game. Like it or not, it is usually about murdering the other guy while watching for stabs to your own back. This to me is fun. Sometimes. In SMALL doses. I have to say...for me, it IS about the killing, the visceral sensation of hunting, fighting, and killing, my mind against theirs, and getting clean away with the dirty deed. Albeit in cyberspace, virtual killing having the distinct advantage of not earning one a prison sentence. To me, the people who use "lame tactics" and never try to learn are simply not developing their full potential to kill often and well. It is all one to me you see, tactics, ACM, and sneaking up on the low six to murder the bandit,  all just tools I use so I can have the pleasure of shooting down the other plane more often and more easily. I may shake my head a little at other pilot's refusal to develop their talents, but really, in the long run, the less they learn, the easier it is for me to hunt them.

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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #55 on: May 24, 2008, 06:15:46 PM »
The private duel GUARANTEES a good dogfight.

That depends on whos fighting who.

Crockett, you could go to the DA with the rule being "take whatever you want", maybe with a max alt but no min.  You can make of it what you wish as long as the other party agrees.  Kind of like consentual sex, as long as you both agree there's no required position.
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #56 on: May 24, 2008, 06:36:31 PM »
How many people in the MA at the time? 200+?  Hard to find a 1 vs 1 with those kinda #'s
Try MW or EW. You will find 1vs1 real easy.

MW maybe, but EW rarely.
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #57 on: May 24, 2008, 06:49:52 PM »
oh and Donzo why are you even in this topic? You have yet to even post one useful response.

Oh, I beg to differ.  I set Sincraft straight on his miunderstanding:
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Re: Can we just rename it?
« Reply #59 on: May 24, 2008, 08:03:34 PM »
OK, so you sign up for a dogfighting game and log on only to see hordes of ganger/runners hoping to find a vulch.  The moment you find any con even close to a co-alt fight, they dive and fly under a horde of friendlies.  So you make a decision, look at the map and find a friendly horde to get in, and do exactly what the other teams are doing to you.  Avoid fighting anything that carries even the slightest risk of them getting guns on you, so that you might overwhelm a base and get a vuclh going.  Go and land your cherries and vulches and get great amounts of praise on 200 as if you actually did something that took skill.


This is what AH is turning into, everyone checking scores to see who got the most vulch sorties in a row to get the highest fighter score without actually "fighting" anything.  Very lame, and not something that people who like the adrenalin of the fight would be interested in. :aok  

nothing has changed in the 5 years ive been here, just numbers got bigger... but then as bases have become harder to capture, the hordes have become bigger.... thats the main reason for this "trouble" you guys see. in AHI days, 5 guys could take a base with light defence, now 20+ is needed (by the average AH reconning).

alot of things like this that tried to make it easier to defend things, only made the attacking hordes bigger and bigger...

...personly i find absolutely no issues finding fights, but then maybe its because i play all parts of this game and you furballers are limiting yourself to a very small part of this game??? i dunno.

Just because people dont fight "your way" doesnt mean they aint fighting. This is what i was trying to explain to you last week (and WMlute was also saying it a day earlier on country...)





oh and btw it isnt a "dogfighting game" its a "air combat game". Totally different things in my book.
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