Re: New KOTH Rules

[evenhaim]

When are they there?  I must be on at the wrong times

tis the smell of musaca in your breath that we avoid!

[TequilaChaser]

When are they there?  I must be on at the wrong times

seconded..............have seen no kennel in weeks............


one question I have, if m00t mentions in his email or PM that "he knows why or is aware he could be penalized" then why are the rest of you ( us, me ) continouing to drag this out?

All m00t or ROC has to do is cut & paste that part of the message where m00t typed such a thing?  what do ya think?

I really could care less either way, I just did not like how the 2 posts

one titled "m00t"  the 2nd titled "New Koth Rules" ( which are really just some extended wordly same rules we have always had from the beginning )

these 2 new post popped up to close together,  you should have posted one  2 days or more before posting the latter or vice versa...................are any of you confused yet?

[AKDogg]

K, here is the old MOTD that I had loaded in previous to the new rules.  Note the red arrow.

Da' Rules...

**********************************************
> TUNE RADIO 5 to CH 101, [ .radio 5 101 ] <
**********************************************
This is NOT a chatroom, keep the chatter to a minimum.
Excessive talkers to people inflight will be muted.  No       <-------
Squad text or PM's is allowed.

The Rules Of Engagement for KOTH.
1) Fighter, Fighter/Attack, and most Bomber/Attack planes
 can be used.
* Do not use rear guns on attack planes.
* No B5N2, Ju 88A-4 or Ki-67.
2) ALL players will take off from the same field.
* Fuel and ammo loadout is pilot's choice.
3) Allow everyone adequate separation on roll-out (5K min).
* If under 5k before fight called, the 'NoJoy' rule applies.
3A) When 'NoJoy' time announced, call nojoy if too close.
* When the fight starts, you can not attack a player you
nojoyed.
* You must find someone else to fight first.
* If BOTH people agree to fight after separating they can
cancel their nojoy.
4) Maximum altitude is 6K during the fight, no exceptions.
* Wind will be 180MPH straight up, End Flight, ".ef" if you
do.
5) The distance boundary is the giant 20k crater wall.
6) NO WINGING! (dogpiling on a 2-timer is NOT winging)
* Winging is a coordinated attack on a single plane or when
engaged with multiple targets passing up obvious shots on
certain targets.
7) Skirting the edge of the fight is prohibited.
* Either be IN a fight, or headed TO the closest fight at
all times!
8) Running (refusing to engage) for an extended period of
time is prohibited.
* After 30 seconds you must reverse and merge.
9) If your engine dies, your plane is unflyable due to
damage, or you run out of ammo, End Flight ".ef" immediately.
* Fuel, oil, or radiator damage is OK until your engine
stops running.
* Pilot wounds and burning planes are OK until you die or
explode.
* You need to be in powered and controlled flight at all
times.
* Controlled flight means you can perform general flight
maneuvers if needed. If you can't you should end flight.
10) If you get shot down, please End Flight ".ef"
* Do not linger on the ground if you ditch or in a chute,
 it is a distraction to people still fighting.
11) If you are one of the last two, anything goes. Then
 fight to the death!
12) Winner of previous round picks the plane for the next
 round.
13) Win three rounds and you win the event and are KOTH
for the month
14) Film your rounds incase there is a issue, U can back
it up with film if there is a problem.  Films can be emailed
to me at oldmaddog@rcn.com.  If I get any films during
the halftime break, I will Review them and DQ any pilot that
breaks any rule for that round.
**************************************************
Unless you are one of the last two. Then fight to the death!
**************************************************

[AKDogg]

Now, I will say this.  I know that the AHevents page didn't have the lastest rules posted till now.  Awhile back there was a problem with the site and stuff was restored with a earlier backup.  Needless to say, we never checked it.  So I will say that my bad.  But that doesn't negate what I had in the MOTD and going over the rules before every KOTH.

This is what we suspended Bosco and his squad for.  Now, if U think I was unfair in apply the new rules to the suspesion, I can use the old rules and give the entire AOM squad a 2 month suspension and m00t a 4 month suspension.  The squad for breaking rule of communication on squad text and m00t for samething and asking for info related to KOTH.  I actually think I was more then fair.  Difference between this and bosco's, Bosco admitted his guilt.  This we have film of it. 

Now, I know U guys know the rule as I stated before, They were gone over at every KOTH plus the fact that Bosco and his crew were also suspended for.

If this is not clear enough for yas then speak to my Boss or HTC.  Now stop trying to find loop holes in the rules or circumventing them.  I done with subject.

[AKDogg]

I've only flown KOTH 2 or 3 times, but just a humble question.....

If it is TRULY every man for himself, why are there ANY forms of communication allowed besides a "fight on" by the CM or a one-way commo channel to the CM for "No-Joys"  Can the radio simply be shut down?

We as a CM team have asked HTC to give us a switch or what ever to disable communication.  Otherwise the only otherway to control this is to have everyone send me there films.  IMHO, that way to many films.  For ex.: 30 people X 14 rounds = 420 films.  That is not gonna happen,lol.

[SkyRock]

 1.      Now, if U think I was unfair in apply the new rules to the suspesion, I can use the old rules and give the entire AOM squad a 2 month suspension and m00t a 4 month suspension. 

2.   and m00t for asking for info related to KOTH. 


3.   Difference between this and bosco's, Bosco admitted his guilt. 

3 things here:

1.   The entire AoM squad?  Or just the ones that were on text that day?(smelly)

2.   asking for info related to KOTH?????? (not smelling good)

3.   This comment about how bosco admitted his guilt and m00t didn't smells of bias.  (stinky) 



So let me get this straight, m00t got a ban for asking who it is he is going to be fighting when only two are left, he and the other fellow?     ...and you want him to admit his guilt???     Guilt only comes from someone knowingly doing something wrong, brother.  Also, you think you should have banned the "entire AoM squad"?   

I want to see you type publicly that Lute was banned from being a CM for breaking the rules. 

Thanks for explaining the situation.








I'm done with this topic.

[Bosco123]

You know what I said to get banned SR, I said "WTG, ur doing good!"

[VonMessa]

You know what I said to get banned SR, I said "WTG, ur doing good!"

Maybe it was bad grammar.   

You should have phrased it "You are doing well."

[Scotch]

When are they there?  I must be on at the wrong times

Usually half a dozen of us on at night. Haven't seen you there in weeks either. Guess time zone differences.

[Larry]

See Rules #4, #5

[BluKitty]

K, here is the old MOTD that I had loaded in previous to the new rules.  Note the red arrow.

Da' Rules...

**********************************************
> TUNE RADIO 5 to CH 101, [ .radio 5 101 ] <
**********************************************
This is NOT a chatroom, keep the chatter to a minimum.
Excessive talkers to people inflight will be muted.  No       <-------
Squad text or PM's is allowed.

[...]

I have one request for the rules: Make them clear, and post them here well ahead of the event.

I wouldn't get involved in this, except that it makes no sense. 
Now looking at what Dogg posted above and looking at the quote below...

Wasn't m00t banned for the February event?...February 9th to be exact?
Below is a post Dogg made on February 11th.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,226561.0.html

Here is the entire list of Rules.  Fuzeman is the FriKOTH CM, I am the SatKOTH CM.

They are held twice a month, 1 on friday of a month, other on a saturday of a month.  Dates will be posted here in the KOTH forum and on the calendar.

Any more ?'s, feel free to ask.


Da' Rules...

**********************************************
> TUNE RADIO 5 to CH 101, [ .radio 5 101 ] <
**********************************************
This is NOT a chatroom, keep the chatter to a minimum.
Excessive talkers to people inflight will be muted.

The Rules Of Engagement for KOTH.
1) Fighter, Fighter/Attack, and most Bomber/Attack planes
 can be used.
* Do not use rear guns on attack planes.
* No B5N2, Ju 88A-4, B25's, B26's or Ki-67.

2) ALL players will take off from the same field.
* Fuel and ammo loadout is pilot's choice.

3) Allow everyone adequate separation on roll-out (5K min).
* If under 5k before fight called, the 'NoJoy' rule applies.

3A) When 'NoJoy' time announced, call nojoy if too close.
* When the fight starts, you can not attack a player you
nojoyed.
* You must find someone else to fight first.
* If BOTH people agree to fight after separating they can
cancel their nojoy.

4) Maximum altitude is 6K during the fight, no exceptions.
* Wind will be 180MPH straight up, End Flight, ".ef" if you
do.
5) The distance boundary is the giant 20k crater wall.

6) NO WINGING! (dogpiling on a 2-timer is NOT winging)
* Winging is a coordinated attack on a single plane or when
engaged with multiple targets passing up obvious shots on
certain targets.

7) Skirting the edge of the fight is prohibited.
* Either be IN a fight, or headed TO the closest fight at
all times!

8) Running (refusing to engage) for an extended period of
time is prohibited.
* After 30 seconds you must reverse and merge.

9) If your engine dies, your plane is unflyable due to
damage, or you run out of ammo, End Flight ".ef" immediately.
* Fuel, oil, or radiator damage is OK until your engine
stops running.
* Pilot wounds and burning planes are OK until you die or
explode.
* You need to be in powered and controlled flight at all
times.
* Controlled flight means you can perform general flight
maneuvers if needed. If you can't you should end flight.

10) If you get shot down, please End Flight ".ef"
* Do not linger on the ground if you ditch or in a chute,
 it is a distraction to people still fighting.

11) If you are one of the last two, anything goes. Then
 fight to the death!

12) Winner of previous round picks the plane for the next
 round.

13) Win three rounds and you win the event and are KOTH
for the month.

14) Film your rounds incase there is a issue, U can back
it up with film if there is a problem.  Films can be emailed
to me at oldmaddog@rcn.com.  If I get any films during
the halftime break, I will Review them and DQ any pilot that
breaks any rule for that round.

**************************************************
Unless you are one of the last two. Then fight to the death!
**************************************************

TO WIN...
you just have to win three rounds... It's easy!

Most Importantly...

HAVE FUN!!!!

*Use CM-eye [F5] mode to enjoy the action after you die!*
You may have to set up CM-Eye for it to work, here's how.
There are a few ways of course but it is easier to set up
a 'Mode 3' and use your joystick buttons and throttle.

1) Go into Options > Controls > Map Controlers
2) Open the Mode Selection menu, select 'Mode 3'
3) Hit the 'Copy Mode 1' button
4) Select Button 0, set to 'View CM Eye Move Forward'
5) Select Button 1, set to 'View CM Eye Move Backward'
6) Select Button 2, set to 'View CM Eye Move Map'(optional)
7) Go to 'Map Keys' and set an available key to
select Mode 3.

I personally set it to the * on the keypad.
However, there are other keys you can use.

CM Eye should now work.
Hit F5 from the Tower, then your key to enter Mode 3.
Joystick buttons 0, 1 and 2 will move you around in CM Eye.
Your throttle controls how fast you move.

[crockett]

seconded..............have seen no kennel in weeks............


one question I have, if m00t mentions in his email or PM that "he knows why or is aware he could be penalized" then why are the rest of you ( us, me ) continouing to drag this out?

All m00t or ROC has to do is cut & paste that part of the message where m00t typed such a thing?  what do ya think?

I really could care less either way, I just did not like how the 2 posts

one titled "m00t"  the 2nd titled "New Koth Rules" ( which are really just some extended wordly same rules we have always had from the beginning )

these 2 new post popped up to close together,  you should have posted one  2 days or more before posting the latter or vice versa...................are any of you confused yet?

Why? Because the CM's are applying a double standard. Yes they did ban Lute but they went out of their way to say Lute's PM's were not cheating and he was banned for other reasons. Then they turn around and claim m00t's PM's were cheating.

So some how a CM that was PMing the location of another player was not cheating, but simply asking who killed another player is cheating. Why are we carrying this one? Because it's the same double standard BS that went on before seems nothing was solved.