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Offline AWMac

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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2008, 12:51:12 PM »
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2008, 12:59:51 PM »
Hillary lost because Obama had a much better campaign strategy and paid attention to the caucuses. This of course has absolutely nothing to do with the misogynistic doings of the press. Lets all try to stay on topic here. She was treated shabbily BECAUSE she was a woman. The links I attached point out how.


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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2008, 01:14:07 PM »
By that logic it is no problem to use the "N" when talking about a black man as long as he is an axehole. Really?

Did the use the "w" word on Hillary? Called her a WOMAN? <GASP>
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2008, 02:18:07 PM »
I am so glade I don't watch Chris Mathews, what a bum, as well as most of the rest of the news. Hillbillary got screwed coming out of Iowa.  The media latched on to this nomination and turned it into  a liberals wet dream, the ultimate affirmative action job placement of a man unqualified to hold the senate seat not alone the presidential seat.
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2008, 02:28:28 PM »
MT...  don't negros use the "N" word when talking about axeholes of their own race?    Don't people "of color" use "white men" and "rednecks" and other derogatory terms for white males and get away with it constantly?   In the end.. just words.

billary is just an abrasive person...even for a driven old lady.   I agree with storch that in general..  women in charge just gum things up in a big way... conservative women not so much.

It is sooooooo easy to hate billary that any excuse to hate her more is good enough.   You simply can't say enough bad things about her or the klinton machine.

unfortunately..  osama husien will be even worse if he gets any power.

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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2008, 02:30:33 PM »
Wait a minute... could this have been yet another vast right wing conspiracy against a Clinton? We all know the media in the US is extreme right wing.
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2008, 02:31:32 PM »
Lots and lots of wonderful excuses for bad behavior... I hope none of you have daughters.

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« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2008, 02:37:14 PM »
I have a granddaughter, does that count?

I intend to tell her that "what goes around, comes around". If you're an axehole... red, white, blue, green, purple or black... .or if you're a man or woman or an indeterminant sex.....  being an axehole has a way of coming back around to bite you in the axe.

I think you have an INCREDIBLY uphill battle to show that Hill lost the nomination solely because she was a "W" ( I'm afraid to use the whole "W" word!).

As has been pointed out, there are a variety of reasons that she isn't the chosen one.
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2008, 02:39:44 PM »
I never said that Toad, why are you trying to change the subject? Can't argue against my actual point?

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« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2008, 02:40:32 PM »
I have a grand daughter and a daughter and if they acted like billary..  I would hope that people would treat them badly.  I would hope that such treatment would give them a hint and burn through whatever driven arrogance and lack of empathy drove them to be such axeholes.

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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2008, 02:42:56 PM »
So it would be OK by you to have them attacked for their looks, their voice, their hair style...etc. When the people doing the attacking really just disagree with their politics? Amazing.


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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2008, 02:50:43 PM »
Your points:


Hard to discount the sexism she has had to deal with over the last couple of years. I think she got a raw deal from the media in general and is treated despicably by some of the conservative pundits.

Again, I think it's the fact she's been an axehole to just about everyone that has caused her to have to deal with people that view her in a negative light.

Raw deal from the media? How so? She got treated like a candidate by a previously overwhelmingly Clinton-favorable liberal media.

Conservative pundits don't like her? Um, which Democratic candidate did they praise and fawn over? I missed it.


 
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The big difference is that she is attacked by liberals as well

Libs don't like her? This is a change; before the Clintons could do no wrong. Guess she must have P.O.'d them?

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and using her sex as a weapon is no different than attacking Obama due to his race.

Got any specific text examples? I'm not one to watch vids; I read faster than they talk and they put me to sleep.

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Overall I feel that if the same were done to Obama during the race we would be calling for some people's heads on a platter ala Don Imus.

Again, specific examples please.

 
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2008, 02:56:13 PM »
yeah MT.. no other candidate has EVER been treated badly because he was an axehole..  and by treated badly I mean his hair style or looks or clothes or voice or whatever.

I have seen republicans who were pilloried by the liberal media because of their voice or hairstyle or clothes.

I think this is sour grapes on your part (and your links) and "hoisted on her own petard) in the case of billary...

Who would have thought that the liberal media would have used the same tactics on billary that they used on republicans cause...  wait for it...  cause billary was not liberal enough!

It is funny in the extreme.   Why is it only dirty pool if it is billary or a woman or race or whatever?   

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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2008, 03:42:22 PM »
Hillary lost because Obama had a much better campaign strategy and paid attention to the caucuses. This of course has absolutely nothing to do with the misogynistic doings of the press. Lets all try to stay on topic here. She was treated shabbily BECAUSE she was a woman. The links I attached point out how.



She lost ONLY because Obama is black. Appears that a lot of democrats are not color blind. Will you deny this?   
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2008, 05:50:05 PM »
I'll miss her.  I keep humming "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead". 

Although I suspect she is like one of those horror movie monsters that just as you think the hero is safe and and the monster destroyed, she'll jump back up and attack when Obama has his back turned. Only after Dean and Pellosi hold her down while Obama pounds a big wooden steak thru her shrivelled black heart as she bears her fangs with a blood curdling screach, will the movie really be over.

I WILL miss Hillary. For the comedy value if nothing else.




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