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Offline mietla

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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #45 on: June 05, 2008, 11:24:21 PM »
MT,

you make an assertion that Hillary's treatment was due to her sex not to the fact that is is a witch and ask the question why?

Then every time someone challenges the assertion, you cry "off topic"



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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #46 on: June 05, 2008, 11:51:46 PM »
I guess there's just no possible way that the truth could be that the media just didn't like her any more, and they decided they'd make an issue of her gender. Just like they'd make an issue of any feature to damage anyone else they didn't like. And yes, I do have a daughter, and no, I'm not concerned for her because of the way the media treated Hillary Clinton. My daughter isn't concerned either. She got her prettythang kicked MT, as much by the Clinton arrogance, and by the machinations of her own party, as anything else. And she appears to have won the popular vote. But you don't hear Dean and the Democrats howling about that, or counting all of Florida and Michigan. But then, things went "their" way, didn't they? Funny, ain't it?
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #47 on: June 06, 2008, 12:06:25 AM »
Throughout his life he has accomplished many things through hard work, not because of his skin color.

What has he accomplished that would make him a good POTUS?

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« Reply #48 on: June 06, 2008, 12:24:18 AM »
What has he accomplished that would make him a good POTUS?
And that, in comparison to what everyone else has accomplished..
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #49 on: June 06, 2008, 12:39:53 AM »
If he were white, he would just be a 1st term senator from Illinois.

What concerns me how a junior Senator has had a meteoric rise in fame/popularity/power, there is alot more beneath the surface than is being released to the public.

No, I don't like The Republican choice either...  in fact, I don't think the common man really has a choice this November. Lets see, experience (and probably 4 more years of the same) with known baggage or inexperience (with possibly disastrous results) with unknown baggage?

There is always the 3rd choice to stay home, and guess what people with realistic views will do?
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #50 on: June 06, 2008, 01:30:54 AM »
Vote on the known quantity?  A non-vote is a vote given to those who'd vote against your vote.
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #51 on: June 06, 2008, 01:43:24 AM »
So, if I don't come to write in a vote for 'Mickey Mouse', someone else may vote for 'Daffy Duck' instead?

It really doesn't matter which I vote for, both choices are poor.
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #52 on: June 06, 2008, 01:56:53 AM »
Dunno what to tell you. There's no excuse for not voting.
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #53 on: June 06, 2008, 03:50:19 AM »
It's all a dreary bother to me.  Hillary's prob is not that she's a woman.  It's that many folk dislike her.  Rationally or irrationally.  The internet doesn't help.  The rise of the "gotcha" police.

Motive is not all.  And it explains much.  Not all, but much.

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« Reply #54 on: June 06, 2008, 05:55:12 AM »
Hitler doesn`t get much good press here either. Even though the two share much in common, he was a male.
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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #55 on: June 06, 2008, 08:06:55 AM »
This is what I'm talking about.

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Mike Barnicle on MSNBC said Clinton "look[ed] like everyone's first wife standing outside a probate court."

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Bill Kristol on Fox News said that among the only people supporting Hillary Clinton were white women, and "[w]hite women are a problem, that's, you know -- we all live with that."

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CNN's Jack Cafferty likened Clinton to "a scolding mother, talking down to a child."

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Fox News' Neil Cavuto suggested Clinton was "trying to run away from this tough, kind of squeaky image."

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MSNBC's Tucker Carlson announced that "when [Clinton] comes on television, I involuntarily cross my legs."

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Christopher Hitchens on CNBC described Clinton as being "sort of alternately soppy and squeaky.'"

All the rest are from Chris Matthews

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repeatedly likened Clinton to "Nurse Ratched," the scheming, heartless character from the mental hospital drama One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest;

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described her laugh as a "cackle," suggested she was "anti-male," "witchy,"

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referred to Clinton as "Madame Defarge" and described male politicians who endorsed Clinton as "castratos in the eunuch chorus";

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compared Clinton to a "strip-teaser," wondered whether she was "a convincing mom,"

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claimed that "some men" say Clinton's voice sounds like "fingernails on a blackboard."

There are many more in the vids I posted.

Now if any of these personal attacks referred to race instead of gender, heads would role.

No, she didn't lose because of these attacks, but the fact that they occurred speaks volumes about where we are as a society. Sad that so many are willing to dismiss these attacks based on their hatred for Hillary.  Doubly sad that there are women on this board who are willing to stand for it.

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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #56 on: June 06, 2008, 08:15:08 AM »
exactly. I've seen the video and heard all those quotes. None of them sounds like an attack on a woman. They are attacks on a witch

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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #57 on: June 06, 2008, 08:18:41 AM »
exactly. I've seen the video and heard all those quotes. None of them sounds like an attack on a woman. They are attacks on a witch

heh... are you trying to be ironic?

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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #58 on: June 06, 2008, 08:27:05 AM »
Of all the quotes you posted.
I could only see two or threee that could be interpeted as anti woman.

the rest seemed to be more anti Hillary discriptions.
And severall that were dead balls accurate I might add

"CNN's Jack Cafferty likened Clinton to "a scolding mother, talking down to a child."

repeatedly likened Clinton to "Nurse Ratched," the scheming, heartless character from the mental hospital drama One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest;

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Re: Misogyny and Hillary
« Reply #59 on: June 06, 2008, 08:59:58 AM »
yep MT.. you are really stretching to make a point... of course you would liken a woman who is as bad as her to stereotypes of her gender..  I notice you do not get all upset when "black leaders" cry "uncle tom" or "redneck" or any of a myriad of male stereotypes. 

You did not get upset about osamabama husien talking about old white guys clinging to guns and religion... you don't get upset when males are likened to stupid or unpleasant male stereotypes.

This is typical liberal...  it is all good fun so long as it is some liberal socialist commentator or entertainer or buffoon like jon stewart skewering white males or republicans but....

OHHHH NOOOOO's!!! don't make fun of the negro or the woman!!!   That is misogony and racism...

You sir are a hypocrite.   I don't mean an evil one tho.. just one who hasn't thought it through.

If hillary did not fit the descriptions or if they were truely attacks on women in general... people would be outraged.   

Just as some men embody the worst of the worst features of maleness..   hillary embodies the worst of the worst features of women (and some of the worst of men)  I will even go further and say that osama husien embodies some of the worst features of both of his races.   That is not a slam on negros or whites but on the man.

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