Misogyny and Hillary

[bj229r]

If only Cindy would run for office.... Oh yah, she IS, it's just that they don't even notice in San Francisco

[Gunthr]

last year, if you disliked Hillary and her politics, you were a mysogonist and afraid of women in power (not naming names MT)

NOW, Hillary has asked her supporters to back Obama.

You should be on board, because your dreams of "reparations", socialism, and even more affirmative action may now finally come true...

except, NOW, if you dislike Obama and his politics, you are a racist...  is that about right?

[midnight Target]

Me..  I am for free speech.. you should be able to slam anyone you want based on their race creed or color.. there are no hate words in my world of free speech.. only responsibility.. if the words don't ring true then they are slander or will be ignored..  to tiptoe around em is abhorent and wrong. 

How can you attack someone for something they have no control over (race, sex etc. ) and find any intellectual justification. This is one of the silliest points I've ever read on these boards.

[lazs2]

mt.. Like I said.. if they are just stupid then they will be ignored.  If you attack someone based only on their skin color.. most will just ignore it and think you are stupid.  If it is true... if you say only negros get sickle cell say..  then so what?   Why do some people feel that they can create some kind of utopia where everyone acts the way that they think people should?

I want no part of your utopia..  it is hell to me.   I want no part of hillary or the half white guy or the democratic party with it's individual crushing utopia.

What is funny tho.. is that it is still alright in said utopia for a jon stewart or a really vile negro comedian to exist.  But... if one of the anointed is being lambasted...  a liberal...

Well..   that is just not fair and moral is it?  Open your friggin eyes fer chrisakes.

lazs

[Casca]

It seems to me that the Democrat campaign is a testament to the logical extension of the gooey multiculti identity politics that they espouse.  I don't see evidence of pervasive misogyny in the rejection of Ms. Clinton, there are many excellent reasons to reject her irrespective of her sex.

[moot]

How can you attack someone for something they have no control over (race, sex etc. ) and find any intellectual justification. This is one of the silliest points I've ever read on these boards.

Clinton has no control over her attitude and philosophy? 

[texasmom]

How can you attack someone for something they have no control over (race, sex etc. ) and find any intellectual justification. This is one of the silliest points I've ever read on these boards. 

That seems to be the entire point ~ rejection of Ms. Clinton has nothing to do with her sex...  and making the claim that "oh, poor Hillary's being discriminated against because she's a woman" is shifting the emphasis entirely to the false notion that it has nothing to do with her venemous spirit.  Same 'ole blame-shifting, responsibility-dodging crap that has been a staple of the democratic party. 

Face it, the woman's just a real b*tch.  And if she were a man... she'd be a real b*stard. 

[Dago]

Sadly, there are those, including at least one on this board, who put blinders on when it comes to raging liberals.  They would come to Hillary's defense with the "you're picking on her because she is a woman" crap, just as some will immediately place the race card, without a single glance at the realities involved.

They need to do the research, go beyond what a Hillary website would try to tell you.  Don't form an opinion about a candidate just because that candidate pays lip service to the things you want to hear.  Listen to those who have had experiences with the candidate, read histories, consider when grand juries had to be formed to investigate a candidate, and do whatever is needed to become informed.

[BTW]

Hard to discount the sexism she has had to deal with over the last couple of years. I think she got a raw deal from the media in general and is treated despicably by some of the conservative pundits. The big difference is that she is attacked by liberals as well and using her sex as a weapon is no different than attacking Obama due to his race. Overall I feel that if the same were done to Obama during the race we would be calling for some people's heads on a platter ala Don Imus.

 CNN covers misogyny
http://hillaryclintonnews.blogspot.com/2008/05/cnn-covers-misogyny-in-media.html

 Sexism Sells
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-IrhRSwF9U

And when do you think the media became less than honest? When Hillary ran for office? Perhaps the media has been moving from news to propaganda for years? Think about that the next time you dismiss the idea that global warming could be media hype.

For the record I think she was covered in a sexist manner. I think Obama is being covered in a racist manner, i.e., he is receiving less scrutiny because he is black. But this is nothing new. News flash - the media is biased, rivaling the propaganda of TASS and Pravda. Conservatives have experienced their bias for years.

[bj229r]

Ya know, as the campaign progressed, I found myself almost liking Hillary---kept having to remind myself she doesn't believe much of what she says (as opposed to Obama, who doesn't actually say anything to not believe in). I could almost picture her as president, and not shove a spoon in my eye

[midnight Target]

Blinders? Ironicaly funny stuff there Dago.

Let me try to help those of you who don't seem to get it.

If for example I were to point out that Dago is wrong because he was short and ugly, that would be wrong. If I on the other hand were to point out that he is wrong due to his beliefs or writings then that would be perfectly all right.

If I were to say Txmom was wrong due to her shrill voice or excess estrogen, that would be wrong. If on the other hand I were to point out that she seems to be blind to the misonyny that is rampant around her and that affects all women, including Hillary, I would be correct.

[moot]

Clinton's political flaws are merely a bad voice and fat hips?? LOL

[bj229r]

Let me try to help those of you who don't seem to get it.

I don't think you're the only liberal on this board, yet you persist in your assertion that EVERYone else is wrong, and you're right. When Bush takes such a stance, it is fodder for ridicule on your part. Would you had shown this much compassion in 1993 for the White House travel office, a collection of LIFEtime federal employees (non-politically appointed) who were framed and fired at Hillary's behest, so she could put some Arkansas cronies in there (Bloodworth-Thomason people) Firing these people wasn't enough, they actually tried to have them put in JAIL
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york061303.asp

[Dago]

Blinders? Ironicaly funny stuff there Dago.

Let me try to help those of you who don't seem to get it.

If for example I were to point out that Dago is wrong because he was short and ugly, that would be wrong. If I on the other hand were to point out that he is wrong due to his beliefs or writings then that would be perfectly all right.

If I were to say Txmom was wrong due to her shrill voice or excess estrogen, that would be wrong. If on the other hand I were to point out that she seems to be blind to the misonyny that is rampant around her and that affects all women, including Hillary, I would be correct.

I guess you are trying to be the definitive example of ironic here, as you have been trying to say Hillary went down the tubes because she is a woman, all the while ignoring who Hillary really is, despite all the information available.

Maybe you wrote your little diatribe while running and dodgine snipers bullets?

Maybe you were busy firing the White House travel staff at the time?

Maybe you were busy screaming and swearing at Secret Service agents?

ETC, ETC, ETC?

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally, open your eyes and mind for a brief moment and think a little.

[texasmom]

If I were to say Txmom was wrong due to her shrill voice or excess estrogen, that would be wrong. If on the other hand I were to point out that she seems to be blind to the misonyny that is rampant around her and that affects all women, including Hillary, I would be correct.

Blind? Nope.  If/when I encounter misogyny (personally), I drive on regardless, and capable of attaining success without whining "...but... but... but I'm a girrrrrl!  And they don't like it... and they're being meeeeean."  And you can't use a claim of misogyny to give an excuse on your own personal failings.  Instead, you keep on keeping on until you're successful.  We'll see in the future if Hillary has that grit.  She's actually a very savvy person, and has already achieved a great level of success in all aspects of her life because of that.  Man or woman (or black or white or hispanic), you gotta give that to her.  She's not gone for good, that's for sure.

Doesn't change the fact that she's a real b*tch, and she'd never have my vote.