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Re: Excessive AFK in tower
« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2008, 08:21:39 AM »

This thread isn't about why Jarbo (or Wingnutt) cant fly their planes, as they are JUG pilots, but the fact that it's harder for them to win the war.

I fly the P-39D and the 109G6. If those are good enough "crap planes" for you.

Also, fly the 109F4, not much performance loss on the G6 in the MA environment.   I rarely fly pee-39's, only thing they do good is dive.  

  
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Re: Excessive AFK in tower
« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2008, 08:23:22 AM »

Two things:

First, there are still many potent planes to fly with ENY 20. There are 45 planes & GV's with ENY 25+, including 109G6, A20, Spit V, 190A8.  It's absolutely not true that you can't do to much.

Second, that old "they don't have the same ENY limits as we do" is getting old. It's not true, it's same for every country. Look at the realtive player percentages, not absolute numbers.
Most of the time LWO has much more pklayers in total. Having 20 players more on a given country when there are 250 players total isn't the same as when total population is only 80.



Last night in bishland, our perk point bonus was 2.2 at one point and never got below 1.5 and the ENY for rooks and knits was 3 or 4. I'm not accusing HTC of anything though since they both had about the same numbers. I guess since bish out number rooks and knits in blue, they are left with a higher ENY.

I really dont care too much since I dont fly in blue too much any more. And I like killing La-7s for easy fighter perkies.

Also, fly the 109F4, not much performance loss on the G6 in the MA environment.   I rarely fly pee-39's, only thing they do good is dive.  

  

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Re: Excessive AFK in tower
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2008, 08:35:36 AM »
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Re: Excessive AFK in tower
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2008, 08:40:35 AM »
Guys, there is another reason to be in the tower and AFK for an extended period.....
That's so one can download skins (for the slower PC types) as it might take a while to do so.
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Re: Excessive AFK in tower
« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2008, 08:42:41 AM »
Guys, there is another reason to be in the tower and AFK for an extended period.....
That's so one can download skins (for the slower PC types) as it might take a while to do so.
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Re: Excessive AFK in tower
« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2008, 08:53:30 AM »
Can you do it in the lobby?  :noid :noid :noid
You have to be in game, However you can sit in the tower of the TA or DA and it works.

Now as far as sitting in the tower....I do it all the time, I dont do it for any reason I just go AFK for long periods of time. Sometimes I am just going AFK to answer the phone and I get caught up doing something. I asure you if you see me in the tower afk It is for no particular reason and I didnt think it was hurting anyone. Now that I know it does have a negative effect, I will still do it. I pay $15 for my account and I will sit in the tower if i want to. :lol
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Re: Excessive AFK in tower
« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2008, 08:54:55 AM »
there are worse things a young man can be up to than sitting in the tower...  :noid

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Re: Excessive AFK in tower
« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2008, 09:05:29 AM »
there are worse things a young man can be up to than sitting in the tower...  :noid
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Re: Excessive AFK in tower
« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2008, 09:10:13 AM »
Usually the percentage of people in tower seems to be pretty much the same for all countries, regardless of having ENY restrictions. These are some random ENY numbers I noticed last week:

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About 21% Bish in tower, 26% Knights, 28% rooks


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About 29% Bish in tower, 27% Knights, 25% Rooks


So if you now would kick a certain part of the AFK pilots, it would affect all countries more or less the same. So total population percentages wouldn't change much.


However, when ENY really goes through the roof (>25) that seems to change somewhat:

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47% Bish in tower, 20% Knights, 16% Rooks.
But the massive number of Bish in tower is not the reason for ENY - it's the result. That's no 1h afk (dinner, work, gone fishing) people, but players that were just stopped by ENY, hoping it will drop soon (but doing nothing to help that).
Remember, it's not necessary to stay in arena to collect your 3x25 war-win perk points.


In my opinion, the long time afk pilots are sitting there for reasons different from ENY. Most of the time it will just be for reasons like securing a spot in the favourite arena (thanks arena caps! ;)). If you kick players after 1h, it's very unlikely to affect ENY at all.




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Re: Excessive AFK in tower
« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2008, 09:37:26 AM »
Another reason that I believe that some folks are likely (*warning* supposition here, no proof) to sit in the tower is that it seems reasonable that folks who need to break from playing the game but hope to come back later will stay in the tower, so that they are not locked out of the arena they've been playing in when they return if the Cap's have switched.

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Re: Excessive AFK in tower
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2008, 09:56:07 AM »
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Re: Excessive AFK in tower
« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2008, 10:02:33 AM »
Last night in bishland,  <SNIP>            I guess since bish out number rooks and knits in blue, they are left with a higher ENY.



As a Knight last night they deserved it.   :devil


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Re: Excessive AFK in tower
« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2008, 10:29:13 AM »
Yay, you win for the stupidest idea ever!

 Has it occured to you what a drag it would be on the server to keep and compare how much time sombody has been in the tower/hanger every cycle? What a waste of power.  All so you can up your late war plane?


Put some stones in your sack...park your lameo "late war" ride and up a plane .....gee whiz....go cry me a river ya morron!   :cry :cry :cry



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Re: Excessive AFK in tower
« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2008, 10:38:38 AM »
Usually the percentage of people in tower seems to be pretty much the same for all countries, regardless of having ENY restrictions. These are some random ENY numbers I noticed last week:

(Image removed from quote.)
About 21% Bish in tower, 26% Knights, 28% rooks


(Image removed from quote.)
About 29% Bish in tower, 27% Knights, 25% Rooks


So if you now would kick a certain part of the AFK pilots, it would affect all countries more or less the same. So total population percentages wouldn't change much.


However, when ENY really goes through the roof (>25) that seems to change somewhat:

(Image removed from quote.)
47% Bish in tower, 20% Knights, 16% Rooks.
But the massive number of Bish in tower is not the reason for ENY - it's the result. That's no 1h afk (dinner, work, gone fishing) people, but players that were just stopped by ENY, hoping it will drop soon (but doing nothing to help that).
Remember, it's not necessary to stay in arena to collect your 3x25 war-win perk points.


In my opinion, the long time afk pilots are sitting there for reasons different from ENY. Most of the time it will just be for reasons like securing a spot in the favourite arena (thanks arena caps! ;)). If you kick players after 1h, it's very unlikely to affect ENY at all.


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Re: Excessive AFK in tower
« Reply #44 on: July 04, 2008, 10:39:22 AM »
Bingo.    Kudos as well Steve.    

They depend on the La7, Spixteen, Niki, Dora, Pony D for accruing victories.   When they cannot get into one, you get what you have in here.   More useless threads about useless ideas, when the solution is to either log off or switch countries.  

I fly Mid War Rides, I have NEVER been affected by the ENY by the planes I choose to fly.  

 I believe this should say "ALL COUNTRYS" depend on the above stated planes..

 Missions run by bishops do not always entail low eny planes.I have been running 190a8 missions for example,which take bases,dont care if anyone is home at that base or not,pay attention and you may be able to stop it..But I have been trying to run missions with higher ENY planes to just do something different.


  I think another draw-back to ENY is the perk bonus and this is another reason the kick should possibly work..SO...correct me if I am wrong ,but if I am flying a 190a8 and eny is 0, I shoot down an LA7,which is a mighty fine perk :D,will it be EXACTLY the same perk bonus if my side has an ENY of 18?? I dont believe it will,I think,it will be much less..This would be another reason I agree with jarbo,or else fix the perk multiplier,if in fact it is the above stated case...I mean if this is true,and I am fighting you in an la7 with a 190A8 because I am forced too"dont give me any crud about swtiching sides,as I have switched sides before,and well,the greeting was less than friendly",then I should get an even better PERK MULTIPLIER,because that is about all I am going to run into,which is LOW ENY planes from the other countrys.
          I disagree lusche,you posted good info,but you are wrong to "ASSUME" that when eny is high bish stop flying and wait for it to go down,or that somehow bish stop flying as eny creeps up..Come fly bish,and you will see,but I doubt if you will.. :lol
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