Excessive AFK in tower

[SteveBailey]

It seems that the courteous thing to do would be go into a low traffic arena whilst AFK downloading skins so that others can play in the LW arenas.

Hmmm on a busy night, this certainly would be the thing to do.  Good point.

[SteveBailey]

   Since the numerical advantage is not representative of arena activity; then the ENY in effect is equivalently not appropriate. 

Here's where you err, as it has been shown.  Generally, the same percentage of people are in the tower for each team so it is indeed pretty muc representative of arena activity. I offered you the eaisiest of solutions(switch sides).  What is it you find so abhorrent about this most simple answer to your concern?   

Finally, I don't recalltoo much personal attacks on you in this thread.  Your cohrot wingnutt has been attacked but only because he ahs been nothing but crass and argumentative.  He did you no favors, only succeeded in immediately removing civility from the post. My first post was sincere, since I still don't see why people should care about ENY.

[Widewing]

There's a few things people do that impact the ability of others to get into the arena.

Logging into an arena to reserve a place for when they will actually play later.. I know of one guy who logs on the minute he gets home from work. However, he doesn't actually play for an hour or more. He just wants to guarantee a place when the arena fills up. I asked him why he just doesn't fly in the other arena, to which he replied, "I don't like the other arena". I translated this into "I can't horde monkey with impunity in that arena".

Seems like a vicious cycle. Can't get in at prime time, log in early. More guys can't get in, more log in early. An unfortunate side effect of arena caps.

The aforementioned downloading of skins should be rare. (no new skins in a long time).

I have no issue with an inactivity timer that boots you if you don't actually participate for 30 minutes.

Think about it. Would you tolerate waiting at the first tee while the guys ahead of you wait an hour for the last guy of their golf party? Would you tolerate some guy holding up the supermarket check-out line holding a place for his wife, who is still shopping? Of course not.

Same thing here... Not playing within a reasonable time?  Cya.

My regards,

Widewing

[LYNX]

Eloquently put by Wingwing to which I concure.

quote from previous post in this thread

In my opinion the 1 hour boot should ONLY happen when arena cap is on.  Only thing these perk prowlers are doing is jamming out guys that want to play.....usually with squaddies. 

1)The outnumbered side can't get new players ...reinforcements.  Although their prolly laughing their bollocks off with all the easy kills.
2) Arena can't balance unless folk log out.
3) A reset / new map is foiled by those being inactive and stopping SIDE BALLANCE.

In all reality I wouldn't expect a boot system to be implemented.  Although it can be frustrating at times.

I to am guilty of afk for dinner but only because I know I won't get back in the "fun packed" arena.  I dunno why but I see the arenas as "A" team and "B" team.....just feels odd in blue.  Off peak blue is a jokers Paradise (no squad reference meant) and I'm pleased HTC upped the cap for orange off peak...thank you.

[Widewing]

I can envision the standard work-around to an inactivity timer.

30 idling Panzers at the lowest number field of each country while dogs get walked, sandwiches are made and kids are put to bed....

It certainly won't eradicate the issue of tower sitters, but it will cut into it some.


My regards,

Widewing

[Masherbrum]

It seems that the courteous thing to do would be go into a low traffic arena whilst AFK downloading skins so that others can play in the LW arenas.

What about spawn campers that sit idle in the same spot while the VH's are dropped 1 or 2 times?   30 mins should be 30 mins right?   What's fair is fair.

[SlapShot]

Wow, thank you all for the responses (even the sarcastic ones).   

I'll try to clarify a bit.
 1) WHY I CARE:  as i understand it, the intended purpose of ENY is for game balance and it seemed it was not achieving that effect
       under the situation at hand last night.

 
Jarbo
     

If it brought you in here to post on it ... then it worked, and it achieved the required effect.

Teams with the larger numbers, that cause ENY to kick in, are just going to have to do it with inferior equipment.

[Masherbrum]

If it brought you in here to post on it ... then it worked, and it achieved the required effect.

Teams with the larger numbers, that cause ENY to kick in, are just going to have to do it with inferior equipment.

Keep in mind, he's in the RollingThunder, I believe he's Bish.   

They've been given three solutions to their "problem", but wish to ignore them.   It's their fault and choice. 

[kj714]

I didn't read all the posts so forgive me if someone's alread pointed this out but, lets say the average sortie is 15 minutes.  Afterward, the guy who just ended that sortie looks around the map to see what he wants to do next, goes and grabs a beer and makes a stop in the bathroom, then looks around the map again before he goes to the hanger to change planes, check ord, check convergences, etc. and takes back off.  It's reasonable to expect he was not "in flight" for 5 minutes.  If this were true of everyone, then 25% (5 of 20 minutes) of all players would not be in flight at any given moment.

5 minutes might be stretching it but you get the point.

Agreed, but let's not forget the poor souls who have simply passed out at the keyboard! 

[angelsandair]

Agreed, but let's not forget the poor souls who have simply passed out at the keyboard! 

Like me yesterday.... 

[jarbo]

Masherbaum: "They've been given three solutions to their "problem", but wish to ignore them.   It's their fault and choice."
Your solutions work effectively for your gameplay, not for mine (and i believe others).  I am trying to propose a small chnage, that I don't see how it would negatively effect your game? 

SteveBailey: When i logged last night there was an uneven number of players in "tower status" between the three countries; so
"Generally, the same percentage of people are in the tower for each team" is not always true and this is to rectify that condition. 
In addition, your assumption implies the "in tower" are there for extended durations.

I do a timer should be long enough to allow someone to eat dinner, or some other reasonable break; thus I think 1 hr would be the minimum. 
Any ingame activity should reset the timer; so someone spawn camping wont get booted.

Jarbo

[SteveBailey]

SteveBailey: When i logged last night there was an uneven number of players in "tower status" between the three countries; so
"Generally, the same percentage of people are in the tower for each team" is not always true and this is to rectify that condition. 
In addition, your assumption implies the "in tower" are there for extended durations.

Well you were given a screenshot showing relatively equal precentages of idle pilots per team.  If you found a rare exception, post it. There will always be anomalies. I'm sure others wuold be willing to post plenty that support it.  You were given 3 options and you continue to ignore them. 

[Masherbrum]

Masherbaum: "They've been given three solutions to their "problem", but wish to ignore them.   It's their fault and choice."
Your solutions work effectively for your gameplay, not for mine (and i believe others).  I am trying to propose a small chnage, that I don't see how it would negatively effect your game? 

SteveBailey: When i logged last night there was an uneven number of players in "tower status" between the three countries; so
"Generally, the same percentage of people are in the tower for each team" is not always true and this is to rectify that condition. 
In addition, your assumption implies the "in tower" are there for extended durations.

I do a timer should be long enough to allow someone to eat dinner, or some other reasonable break; thus I think 1 hr would be the minimum. 
Any ingame activity should reset the timer; so someone spawn camping wont get booted.

Jarbo

My game ISN'T affected for the umpteenth time.   I fly Mid War rides, and I am not loyal to chess pieces.   Only my Squad is mainly Rook and I will switch if the Rooks have inflated numbers.

I am not the problem, don't turn this onto me.  You have the problem since you started the thread.  You and your squaddies continue to add NO PROOF of your claims.   

[Jaccpot]

You have to be in game, However you can sit in the tower of the TA or DA and it works.

Now as far as sitting in the tower....I do it all the time, I dont do it for any reason I just go AFK for long periods of time. Sometimes I am just going AFK to answer the phone and I get caught up doing something. I asure you if you see me in the tower afk It is for no particular reason and I didnt think it was hurting anyone. Now that I know it does have a negative effect, I will still do it. I pay $15 for my account and I will sit in the tower if i want to.

WELL SAID FISH.

Could not have said it better!!!

[LYNX]

Masherbrum

Get with the picture mate.  No one cares if your mid war in a late war arena.  No one cares if your not affected by EN-blood-y.  No one gives a rats arse about your style...it's about tower queens in a capped arena.

20 or 30 chaps afk in a capped arena hours on end is taking the piss in anybodies language.