Excessive AFK in tower

[Masherbrum]

Masherbrum

Get with the picture mate.  No one cares if your mid war in a late war arena.  No one cares if your not affected by EN-blood-y.  No one gives a rats arse about your style...it's about tower queens in a capped arena.

20 or 30 chaps afk in a capped arena hours on end is taking the piss in anybodies language.

LYNX, they've been offered 3 solutions.   

[LYNX]

LYNX, they've been offered 3 solutions.   

Firstly I don't think HTC would implement a boot system secondly those 3 solutions are infact 3 "choices".  One can opt to use those choices or ignore them.

Someone who is country loyal isn't going to swap sides to balance therefore they knowingly accept any ENY consequences.   These guys tend to be strat players more so than furballers.  Their choice again...right.

As for moving to another arena why would you do that if you've spent 2 hours working captures.  You just wouldn't.  You'd want to stay and finish the job.

You nor I would knowingly swap sides to reap reset perkies.  Nor would we swap arena for reset perkies.  Nor would we swap arenas for reset perkies and then go AFK but we've both seen these antics.  We've also seen guys log into game to reserve a spot then go do a days work.  In some other thread I read about a guy bragging he was in one arena for 3 days before disconnection. 

As a strat player and country loyal I knowingly accept ENY but it's a little cheeky of some to sit in tower for either perkies or spot reserving and influencing 3 things for all 3 sides simultaneously:-
1) Arena cap 
2) Side balance 
3)Inflated ENY.

I have a squadie who 8 times out of 10 can't get in our arena after his shift work.  Should the whole squad move arena on mass then ENY could be effected in one or both arenas.  Would all the squadies be happy unpitching camp for 1 guy after working 1 arena for a couple of hours....I doubt it.

As for chaps capturing an empty uncapped arena then I think personally they have some cheek to complain.  May as well go off line missions or what ever But are they in there because 20 AFK'ers have capped the other arena?

When it comes to capped arenas I'd rather have an active squadie in, rather than some "spot reserver" in tower.

[SlapShot]

Firstly I don't think HTC would implement a boot system secondly those 3 solutions are infact 3 "choices".  One can opt to use those choices or ignore them.

Someone who is country loyal isn't going to swap sides to balance therefore they knowingly accept any ENY consequences.   These guys tend to be strat players more so than furballers.  Their choice again...right.

As for moving to another arena why would you do that if you've spent 2 hours working captures.  You just wouldn't.  You'd want to stay and finish the job.

You nor I would knowingly swap sides to reap reset perkies.  Nor would we swap arena for reset perkies.  Nor would we swap arenas for reset perkies and then go AFK but we've both seen these antics.  We've also seen guys log into game to reserve a spot then go do a days work.  In some other thread I read about a guy bragging he was in one arena for 3 days before disconnection. 

As a strat player and country loyal I knowingly accept ENY but it's a little cheeky of some to sit in tower for either perkies or spot reserving and influencing 3 things for all 3 sides simultaneously:-
1) Arena cap 
2) Side balance 
3)Inflated ENY.

I have a squadie who 8 times out of 10 can't get in our arena after his shift work.  Should the whole squad move arena on mass then ENY could be effected in one or both arenas.  Would all the squadies be happy unpitching camp for 1 guy after working 1 arena for a couple of hours....I doubt it.

As for chaps capturing an empty uncapped arena then I think personally they have some cheek to complain.  May as well go off line missions or what ever But are they in there because 20 AFK'ers have capped the other arena?

When it comes to capped arenas I'd rather have an active squadie in, rather than some "spot reserver" in tower.

ENY was not meant to "balance", even tho it may entice some to switch sides/arenas ... it was meant to "even the playing field" under certain population imbalance conditions.

You don't want to switch sides/arenas .. thats fine ... you will just have to fight the fight with lesser capable equipment.

It probably would be a good idea to "boot" people after sitting idle for 1 hour, but if it were introduced, I can just imagine the "whine" threads that that would result in. Maybe HT has picked the lesser of 2 evils.

[Masherbrum]

ENY was not meant to "balance", even tho it may entice some to switch sides/arenas ... it was meant to "even the playing field" under certain population imbalance conditions.

You don't want to switch sides/arenas .. thats fine ... you will just have to fight the fight with lesser capable equipment.

It probably would be a good idea to "boot" people after sitting idle for 1 hour, but if it were introduced, I can just imagine the "whine" threads that that would result in. Maybe HT has picked the lesser of 2 evils.

Which basically is what HTC has said ever since the ENY limiter (Not balancer as some of the posters in this thread have called it.   Because it LIMITS the craft and vehicles a country can use.)

[kj714]

Which basically is what HTC has said ever since the ENY limiter (Not balancer as some of the posters in this thread have called it.   Because it LIMITS the craft and vehicles a country can use.)

So people are misspeaking then when they refer to ENY as "side balancing"?
 

[SlapShot]

So people are misspeaking then when they refer to ENY as "side balancing"?
 

Correct.

[CAP1]

i haven't read the entire thread...but......
i don't caret oo much, as when eny goes too high, i fly buffs....or change sides if i REALLY wanna fly.

but i do see the point. the people sitting in the tower for hours on end, are there only because they want the perks when the map is won. it's stupid, and a waste of bandwidth. it keeps pilots that want to fly out, if the arena is full, and it screws eny for those that do care.

 the best thing, i think would be to ""auto boot"". someone goes inactive for an hour, they get booted. it should be easy to set up, and would allow people that want to fly to come in.


just my 2 cents.....

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[bj229r]

Hmmm...mebbe THAT'S where the mods hang out

[-SR-]

Maybe we should self police this issue.

Just ask those people to log out when not flying. They may not know this is currently a problem.

Although I pay my subscription, I don't want to impede another person's enjoyment of the game by staying logged on without any activity.

I believe it would be considered rude to do otherwise.



-SR-

[CAP1]

Maybe we should self police this issue.

Just ask those people to log out when not flying. They may not know this is currently a problem.

Although I pay my subscription, I don't want to impede another person's enjoyment of the game by staying logged on without any activity.

I believe it would be considered rude to do otherwise.



-SR-

probably a good idea, but how do you ask someone to leave if they've left their computer logged on and ran up to the quickie mart?

[Rolex]

Looks like "side balancing" to me.

[Kev367th]

ENY was not meant to "balance", even tho it may entice some to switch sides/arenas ... it was meant to "even the playing field" under certain population imbalance conditions.

It was meant to encourage people to swap sides, sounds like an enticement to "Side Balance" to me.

[SFCHONDO]

Haven't read every single post, did anyone show any stats on how many people are so called sitting in tower for hours on end. Just because you see 20 guys out of 100 sitting in the tower doesn't mean they are all AFK for hours. Has the original poster of this thread done any research to see if they were all AFK for hours on end? There will always be people in the tower through out the course of your playing time. Just curious if the poster did any homework on the percentage of AFK people that are gone hours on end. I am betting it is a relatively small number % wise.

[whiteman]

I've seen bish have 90 some odd players near a win then and for the next 2 hrs only have 50-60 in flight. I watched just cause i was flying bish. i logged when eny hit 29, don't need the perks so no big deal to me but does suck for those looking to win the map.

[dedalos]

well smart guy...

maybe you should go ahead and print what he posted, and read it again, perhaps while sitting in a nice bubble bath so you can concentrate this time..

the gist is, people are going "AFK" for exorbitant amounts of time.. I.E. minimizing the game and doing... ???... the result being.. in this situation.. almost %50 of the country's population.. sitting in the tower.. causing a high ENY penalty against that country, despite the fact that the number of people ACTUALLY PLAYING.. is the LOWEST in the arena at that time..

ya get it now? or would your prefer a picture? perhaps a nice graph, with neat colors.

anyway, i think its a good idea.. if you do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING not even change bases.. for over an hour.. BOOT.

I think he does.  Are we assuming that only the people from one country do that?   
Now if you want to talk about the arena being full and not being able to log in to that arena then maybe there is a point to be made