Pickers and runners please help me understand...

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Not quite Slap but close.  The P47s were bounced by the 190s.  After a hard chase the Fw190 ran out of ammo.  The kraut pulled up alongside the desperately damaged but still functioning P47 and looked at the pilot hunkered down and shook his head in disbelief before peeling off.  He would have killed that P47 if he could have, he did in fact try to.

Had nothing at all to do with chivalry, those fairy tales are for dead men.

im pretty sure the German escorted him most of the way home, could be wrong though.

[olskool2]

Zazen, you're correct on everything, but either way, there is no excuse for outright running from a 1 on 1 you would have got bested in (which was the true rant of the whole thread). Especially if you came in with marked advantages versus the other pilot. That's just breaking an otherwise good fight down to horsepower instead of skill.

[NoBaddy]

I for one would like to know what motivates these timid players.  Could one of you timid players please explain why you play a PvP centric game and refuse to fight?

This is an attempt at humor....right???? 

The same thing that motivates the horde monkeys....win at all costs.

[NoBaddy]

ey NB...how ya doin?

i think his point was that the onl time the 109 was willing to engage was when he had serious alt advantagfe, or when he thought that he wasn't looking?

I'm doin' good, Cappy. Working on Con stuff...life is good.

I understand what he said. My point was when you get 75% of the folks you meet to fight the way you want...why bother to come here and complain about the 25% that refused to do so? I've been doing this a loooong time and that type of player has been around forever.

[SlapShot]

This is an attempt at humor....right???? 

The same thing that motivates the horde monkeys....win at all costs.

Geeesh ... if we actually WON something tangible ... and winZ teh W@rZ perks don't count ... I could maybe understand.

[NoBaddy]

I disagree with this completely.

In a good turning A/C , you can avoid most BnZ attacks all day and get them to fight your fight. It doesn't take much of a pilot to yank back on the stick and turn sharp to avoid.

Conversely, it doesn't take much of a pilot to BnZ all day either as they are showing no skill doing that. So I understand your point.

DaveJ...the instructions are on the heel of the boot.....

[SlapShot]

I'm doin' good, Cappy. Working on Con stuff...life is good.

I understand what he said. My point was when you get 75% of the folks you meet to fight the way you want...why bother to come here and complain about the 25% that refused to do so? I've been doing this a loooong time and that type of player has been around forever.

NB has been around so long ... he was the one that invented pixel dirt.

[SlapShot]

DaveJ...the instructions are on the heel of the boot.....

 

[Ack-Ack]

im pretty sure the German escorted him most of the way home, could be wrong though.

he looked the plane over, gave a <S> and broke off.  Yeager was right, it wasn't any sort of 'honor' that kept the Luftwaffe pilot from shooting down the P-47, it was the lack of ammo.


ack-ack

[NoBaddy]

Your absolutely correct ... but that was not the point of the thread.

The K4 made no attempt to fight when presented with the 1 v 1 ... had he engaged and then disengaged, if put into a non-winning position, to reset the fight ... then I don't think Scca would have created this thread ... whether he lost or won.

It was the fact that the K4 made a couple (or one) pass, probably hoping to get lucky ... extended beyond icon range and only returned, and enter the fight with any fervor, because Scca was already engaged.

Personally ... I do and don't understand this mentality.

Slappy...

Heck, I've seen guys that run at the first sign of a co-alt dot!!! What I have a problem with is what Scca thought he would accomplish with this thread...is he really that new?? I really don't understand why anyone that has been around for more than a couple of camps would post what he posted. The kind of player he posted about is not new (though the player himself might be), this "style" of play has been around for ever. So...really, why bother?

[SlapShot]

Not quite Slap but close.  The P47s were bounced by the 190s.  After a hard chase the Fw190 ran out of ammo.  The kraut pulled up alongside the desperately damaged but still functioning P47 and looked at the pilot hunkered down and shook his head in disbelief before peeling off.  He would have killed that P47 if he could have, he did in fact try to.

Had nothing at all to do with chivalry, those fairy tales are for dead men.

Thanks for setting the story straight ... now that you mentioned it, I now remember that the German did indeed shoot all his ammo and I guess fly next to the P-47 in amazement and wondered if the pilot was actually still alive.

[humble]

If I remember correctly, it was a P-47 pilot who put up a hell of a fight, against multiples I believe, and finally duked it out with this one German pilot in a real drag down fight. The P-47 got hit bad and decide to bug out ... meanwhile the German did try to take him out from the rear, but the P-47 just kept on going ... so, for whatever reason, I think the German decided that he should live that day and ceased firing and escorted him part way across the channel.

Zaz ... I have done the same with some pilots too and I have also broken off the attack on certain pilots so as not to kill them, because the fight was over and I knew and liked the guy I was fighting, or I knew the guy and he had done the same to me.

P-47 pilot was Robert Johnson and the 190 driver was a well known ace as well....

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he looked the plane over, gave a <S> and broke off.  Yeager was right, it wasn't any sort of 'honor' that kept the Luftwaffe pilot from shooting down the P-47, it was the lack of ammo.


ack-ack

well damm it all im just gonna HO every one from now on, you guys pissin in my cornflakes 

[SlapShot]

Slappy...

Heck, I've seen guys that run at the first sign of a co-alt dot!!! What I have a problem with is what Scca thought he would accomplish with this thread...is he really that new?? I really don't understand why anyone that has been around for more than a couple of camps would post what he posted. The kind of player he posted about is not new (though the player himself might be), this "style" of play has been around for ever. So...really, why bother?

True ... but nothing like a good healthy exchange ... I don't think that anyone really got out of hand during the discussion.

[angelsandair]

DaveJ...the instructions are on the heel of the boot.....

I usually do a rolling scissors to get out of pickers. Which IIRC is where you roll and go up, then nose down really hard? (Hard to explain..)