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Offline Hangtime

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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2008, 02:21:19 PM »
I kinda like the Roman System... Tribunes were elected; and if they betrayed or pissed off their electorate, the people just mobbed the guy, tore him to pieces and fed their dogs with the bloody bits.



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« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2008, 02:43:26 PM »
I kinda like the Roman System... Tribunes were elected; and if they betrayed or pissed off their electorate, the people just mobbed the guy, tore him to pieces and fed their dogs with the bloody bits.





I'm betting my dog would get sick on Pelosi - even a little bit.

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« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2008, 02:45:58 PM »
I kinda like the Roman System... Tribunes were elected; and if they betrayed or pissed off their electorate, the people just mobbed the guy, tore him to pieces and fed their dogs with the bloody bits.

Sounds fun, but I like the ancient Greek system of Ostracism. Each year, the worst politician was voted on, and they're banished for 10 years.

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« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2008, 02:51:05 PM »
I'm ok with that except we have to up to the worst 50% get banned for 10 years.
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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2008, 02:52:07 PM »
Funny, I can't find anything about this on line... care to supply a link or something?

In fact it isn't even on the Fox News site. Is it possible that this is a concocted story by Faux to further their agenda? I'll go with Yep!
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« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2008, 03:21:17 PM »
If you can't find anything online about this, you ain't looking.

Yahoo, do a search for Federal Gas Tax Increase, enjoy ALL the reading since most major newspapers are reporting on it.
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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2008, 03:26:08 PM »
I've repeated this before, I'll do it again. Hasn't anyone read "Earth in the Balance" by Albert Gore Jr.? You do know that one of the supposedly greatest, and most favorite Democrats in recent history, Albert Gore Jr., stated in his book that it should be a goal to drive the price of petroleum products so high that it became impossible to use/operate an internal combustion engine. Yes, that is Al Gore Jr.'s position, and one favored by a great number of Democrats and other liberals.

And yet people wonder why the Democrats refuse to allow drilling off shore, or in the ANWAR, and now propose to raise taxes on oil, whether by creating an arbitrary "windfall profits" tax, or by increasing taxes on gasoline and diesel. THEY DON'T CARE if you cannot afford to drive to work, or to the grocery store. THEY DON'T CARE if your school system can't afford fuel for buses. THEY DON'T CARE if your local law enforcement agency or fire department doesn't have enough fuel for all of their vehicles. THEY DON'T CARE what else you won't be able to afford because of the rising cost of fuel and the taxes on it, either.

Well I guess that will lead to 1776 all over again...... :uhoh

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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2008, 04:50:46 PM »
Sorry, myelo, but the two-sided format is a fact of Fox News commentary, unlike the one-sided presentations of other MSM sources.  

Sorry Sabre, when you start photosphopping pictures of people you're covering who disagree with you, you should just stick to stories about Elvis sightings and UFO abductions because you've lost any credibility as a valid news source.

Seriously though, what do you think of the subject of this thread itself (your views on Fox being well enough known)?

If you think there's going to be a serious effort to substantially increase federal gas taxes in an election year, you need to cash a reality check. BTW McCain's and Clinton's proposal to temporarily suspend the tax is even more foolish and is nothing but a shameless pander to voters who should be smart enough to know better.


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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2008, 05:03:13 PM »
BTW McCain's and Clinton's proposal to temporarily suspend the tax is even more foolish and is nothing but a shameless pander to voters who should be smart enough to know better.

Yeah, make gas cheaper until the crude downslope catches up with the price at the pump. Cheaper gas, thats bad.

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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2008, 05:11:44 PM »
Saw a good idea on MSN the other day.  A floating tax to keep gas at $4.  Think Toad came up with much the same idea a while back. 

At least then the money is going to the US, instead of overseas. 

Use the extra to cut income taxes, or more likely corporate taxes.

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« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2008, 05:42:23 PM »
Yeah, make gas cheaper until the crude downslope catches up with the price at the pump. Cheaper gas, thats bad.

Looks like we can mark you down in the category of voters who should know better.

Right now, the bottleneck for gas supply is the refineries which are operating at near 100% capacity. So supply is essentially inelastic.

Econ 101: When supply is inelastic, the price will rise until the quantity demanded falls to match the quantity supplied. So removing the tax will have virtually no effect on the price consumers pay.

Where will that extra money go? The oil companies.

Where does the money come from to make up the lost revenues? Under McCain's plan, you. Other taxes you pay will be shifted to fill in the holes (he's a little vague on that part).






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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2008, 06:29:36 PM »
How about we burn 'K' Street to the ground, end all tax breaks for oil companies, tax 'em the same rate the IRS taxes you and me (33%+) and lock down all domestic production for domestic distribution.
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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2008, 06:47:18 PM »
How about we burn 'K' Street to the ground, end all tax breaks for oil companies, tax 'em the same rate the IRS taxes you and me (33%+) and lock down all domestic production for domestic distribution.

If oil were sold worldwide in a truly free market I would have to disagree with you about locking it down. Since we must compete with nations that enslave their citizens I think you're right. We should not be supporting these tyrannical governments with our natural resources.
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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2008, 06:50:23 PM »
This is resulting in a shortfall for fed funded roads and highway projects.

Heres the funnier part. Why would they need more money for highway and road projects if people are driving less? Less driving is less wear on the roads.
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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2008, 07:57:06 PM »
Right now, the bottleneck for gas supply is the refineries which are operating at near 100% capacity. So supply is essentially inelastic.

Yet <the democratic> Congress still wont allow more refineries built.

Like I said, cheap gas is bad.  :rolleyes:
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