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Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« on: July 24, 2008, 09:23:41 AM »
I was watching Fox News this morning and they had a story about a move in Congress right now, proposed by Democrats, to increase that federal tax on gasoline from 18.4 cents/gal to 28.4 cents/gal! Apparently, the higher price of gasoline lately has caused people to cut back on consumption (no surprise there), resulting in decreased gas-tax revenues.  This is resulting in a shortfall for fed funded roads and highway projects.  So, let's look at the logic here: Higher prices at the pump translates to less consumption and therefore less tax revenues.  Democrats' solution, increase the price at the pump by increasing the gas tax...resulting in less consumption and less revenue, and so on and so on...  Anyone see a pattern here?

Can Democrats in Congress be so out of touch that they don't understand the depth of voter anger over energy prices right now?  If they really wanted to increase revenues, they'd follow the Adminstration's lead, lifting the ban on off-shore drilling and also open ANWR to exploration/production.  The ANWR area being proposed for drilling sites is apparently only 70 miles from the existing oil pipeline.

Interestingly enough, Fox had a Republican law maker on to offer an opposing view on this bill.  They always try to put on an equal number of people on both sides of the issues (it's that whole "fair and balanced" concept).  During the segment, they had the Republican in one panel, and in the other...an empty chair.  They had asked a dozen or more Democratic lawmakers on to offer their justification for increasing the gas tax at this time, and could not get one to agree to come on-air.  Hmm...
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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2008, 09:29:24 AM »
It's just another ploy to get people to buy Pruises and give up their manhood in whatever other way possible.

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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2008, 09:31:29 AM »
Interestingly enough, Fox had a Republican law maker on to offer an opposing view on this bill.  They always try to put on an equal number of people on both sides of the issues (it's that whole "fair and balanced" concept). 

HAHAHAHAHA....
oh you were serious, sorry.


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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2008, 09:46:42 AM »
No surprise there. They aren't going to face any tough questions, just bury their heads in the sand as usual..... :mad:

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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2008, 09:48:36 AM »
HAHAHAHAHA....
oh you were serious, sorry.

Sorry, myelo, but the two-sided format is a fact of Fox News commentary, unlike the one-sided presentations of other MSM sources.  Of course, if someone is far enough to the left, even someone in the center seems like a right-wing radical to you. :)

Seriously though, what do you think of the subject of this thread itself (your views on Fox being well enough known)?
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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2008, 09:52:35 AM »
NEWSFLASH! OBAMA ANNOUNCES OFFICIAL SONG OF HIS CAMPAIGN!


Let me tell you how it will be
There's one for you, nineteen for me
Cos I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

Should five per cent appear too small
Be thankful I don't take it all
Cos I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman

If you drive a car, I'll tax the street
If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat
If you get too cold I'll tax the heat
If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet

Taxman!
Cos I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman

Don't ask me what I want it for (Aahh MS. Pelosi)
If you don't want to pay some more (Aahh Mr. Reid)
Cos I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

Now my advice for those who die
Declare the pennies on your eyes
Cos I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

And you're working for no one but me
Taxman!
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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2008, 10:42:28 AM »
You encounter this "logic" in a lot of areas. Let's see. Higher prices cause a drop in demand and therefore a drop in tax revenue. So, let's raise taxes, also further raising prices, so you get an even greater drop in demand and tax revenues.

At the federal level you are somewhat stuck as a consumer with nowhere to turn for relief. However, when this is done at the state level you have the added "benefit" of driving border people to other states where taxes are lower reducing revenues even more!

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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2008, 10:57:00 AM »
Will congressional aproval drop below the all time low of 9%?


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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2008, 11:29:44 AM »
Will congressional aproval drop below the all time low of 9%?
 :D

Hey, look at it this way.  Once it hits 0%, they've got nowhere to go but up. :devil
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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2008, 12:00:57 PM »
Hey, look at it this way.  Once it hits 0%, they've got nowhere to go but up. :devil

I think lynch mobs become legal once they hit 0.
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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2008, 12:12:54 PM »
NEWSFLASH! OBAMA ANNOUNCES OFFICIAL SONG OF HIS CAMPAIGN!


Let me tell you how it will be
There's one for you, nineteen for me
Cos I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

Should five per cent appear too small
Be thankful I don't take it all
Cos I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman

If you drive a car, I'll tax the street
If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat
If you get too cold I'll tax the heat
If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet

Taxman!
Cos I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman

Don't ask me what I want it for (Aahh MS. Pelosi)
If you don't want to pay some more (Aahh Mr. Reid)
Cos I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

Now my advice for those who die
Declare the pennies on your eyes
Cos I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

And you're working for no one but me
Taxman!



dude, you need to be taken out back and shot for that!!!!!!!

how could you soil the beatles by associating one of their songs with that assshole? :rofl
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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2008, 12:15:03 PM »
What's really funny is the story that's not making the MSM. The DNC hasn't been paying state or federal taxes on gasoline while setting up their convention. They made a special agreement with the Denver to use their state government pumps and supplies. The first reasoning was for "security".  :lol

The second reason was that this type of agreement was in place in Washington, and the Republicans were doing the same thing for their convention. Turns out that neither of those are true.

The agreement has since been ended, and the DNC is getting gas from actual gas stations like everybody else now.

Funny how just a little bit of publicity can get somebody to snatch their hand back out of the cookie jar.

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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2008, 12:15:45 PM »


At the federal level you are somewhat stuck as a consumer with nowhere to turn for relief.
Charon


that's bullchit. they aren't stuck with nowhere to turn. they simpl need to do like those of us little guys do. if we're comming up short on this months bills, then we need to trim our budget. stop buying so much. take a pay cut. they can do it if they try.













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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2008, 01:05:38 PM »
I've repeated this before, I'll do it again. Hasn't anyone read "Earth in the Balance" by Albert Gore Jr.? You do know that one of the supposedly greatest, and most favorite Democrats in recent history, Albert Gore Jr., stated in his book that it should be a goal to drive the price of petroleum products so high that it became impossible to use/operate an internal combustion engine. Yes, that is Al Gore Jr.'s position, and one favored by a great number of Democrats and other liberals.

And yet people wonder why the Democrats refuse to allow drilling off shore, or in the ANWAR, and now propose to raise taxes on oil, whether by creating an arbitrary "windfall profits" tax, or by increasing taxes on gasoline and diesel. THEY DON'T CARE if you cannot afford to drive to work, or to the grocery store. THEY DON'T CARE if your school system can't afford fuel for buses. THEY DON'T CARE if your local law enforcement agency or fire department doesn't have enough fuel for all of their vehicles. THEY DON'T CARE what else you won't be able to afford because of the rising cost of fuel and the taxes on it, either.
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Re: Dems in Congress propose INCREASE in gasoline tax :huh !?!
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2008, 02:16:55 PM »
democrats... socialists... have always felt that you could tax your way into prosperity.

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