Flying in first-class is not fun when...

[trax1]

Beechcraft pontoon plane?

Yeah, I guess I spelled Beechcraft wrong, but it was a pontoon plane, which is a plane that takes off & lands on water, like I said it was old, looked like atleast 30-40 years old.

[Maverick]

Something like the one in this youtube clip?
http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=a2FiFiaEIwA

BTW I just picked it at random since it showed the plane pretty clearly.

[Fulmar]

I think a Hot Shots clip is necessary for this thread.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iBzyaspqhy0

[Pooh21]

At least you will have the consolation that you were not flying coach when you went to meet St. Peter.  I thought everyone wanted to go out in First Class.   

Id rather be in the back. In the front you get there, "Hi St. Peter I'm---" as 200 some on fire souls coming barreling over the top of you.

[trax1]

Something like the one in this youtube clip?
http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=a2FiFiaEIwA

BTW I just picked it at random since it showed the plane pretty clearly.

Yeah it was just like that, just the one I was in was a little bit bigger.  You can see in the video that the plane was doing the same thing that the one I was in was doing, picking up & dropping off people onto cabins on a lake that you can only get to by pontoon plane. 

It's a lot of fun going on a trip like that, the cabins we stayed at were up in Canada and we had no running water, no electricity, and no plumbing, so you used an outhouse, it was just really beautiful up there, no pollution, you drank the water right out of the lake.  Only bad thing is if something happens like an accident you have no way of calling for help, just every couple days the owner of the place would fly in to check on us, and take out any bears, or fish we would want mounted.  We've gone about 4 times.

[CAP1]

....sitting up close to the bulk head, enjoying the lake scenerey of Lewisville and Grapevine on final approach, and then hearing Betty from the cockpit....

deedle deedle...WIND SHEAR, WIND SHEAR

deedle deedle...WIND SHEAR, WIND SHEAR

well, i was out flying in south jersey tonight in a cessna 172. runway 26, winds 8kts gusting to 14 from 190. treeline on the north side of the runway parallell to it.  very hard, and very fun landings. i had forgotten how much work crosswind landings are.  caught a bit of minor windshear on 2 or 3 of my climbouts, and on short final.....and that always adds to the fun.

[avionix]

Had a great takeoff experience on my solo cross country while doing my PPL.  Went into one airport on a day that the airport should have been closed.  Wind was gusting about 25 and ice on the runway.  Needless to say, scared the poop out of me.

[Stixx]

Mid seventies, twin engine twelve seat puddle jumper from DFW to Kileen regional.
Planes weaving all over the place. The door is rattling in its frame. The curtain to
the cockpit is open and I can see the pilot tapping on one of the gauges in the
instrument panel. He quietly confers with the CP who taps several times on the
same gauge and shrugs just before the plane suddenly drops a couple of hundred
feet.

On my next trip I took the bus.

[CAP1]

Had a great takeoff experience on my solo cross country while doing my PPL.  Went into one airport on a day that the airport should have been closed.  Wind was gusting about 25 and ice on the runway.  Needless to say, scared the poop out of me.

sheesh dude......hopefully you didn't land there.......25 is waaay over the limit for small aircraft. i can imagine you running our of rudder trying to keep the nose straight.......

[Golfer]

sheesh dude......hopefully you didn't land there.......25 is waaay over the limit for small aircraft. i can imagine you running our of rudder trying to keep the nose straight.......

Where in the small aircraft limitation magic handbook did you read that?

[ROX]

Talk about things that make your schvincter pucker              

YIKES!!



ROX

[avionix]

The crosswind was less than five degrees down the runway.  Remember, doesn't matter what the windspeed is as long as you don't go past the crosswind component.

[CAP1]

The crosswind was less than five degrees down the runway.  Remember, doesn't matter what the windspeed is as long as you don't go past the crosswind component.

still, though..the gust factor. it can still really screw up a good flight. i think that personally, i wouldn't have gone. in the off chance something happened, it could've looked bad.

like i said.....i was having a helluva time in 8 gusting to 15 this past saturday. was a workout, but...and this sounds weird to say.......i think it was the most fun i've had in a long long time.

 i wasn't too ha[[y with ay of my landings, but my CFI(remember doing my BFR) was happy, and somewhat impressed with them.

[CAP1]

Where in the small aircraft limitation magic handbook did you read that?

you wantr me to scan tthe pages from my cessna POH's? i have them for the 172N, A, and P.

i can go to the flight club too and get them from the archers and warriors if ya like.
 

[Golfer]

You'll find the word "Demonstrated" ahead of them and find it's rare to have an actual crosswind limitation placed on the aircraft in the AFM.

The only commonly seen limitation has to do with the prohibition of landing with a tailwind component in excess of 10 knots.

The only time I've been limited in crosswind component was flying for a domestic 121 airline which placed a limitation in our SOPs which matched the demonstrated crosswind component for the aircraft (28kts).  Because it was written into the GOM it became regulatory and as such had to be adhered to.  The other AFMs on my shelf even go out of their way to specify that the demonstrated crosswind components are not limiting.

The Cessna 172 posesses no such limitation.  It's been years but memory serves it was demonstrated to what...12 knots or so?  Hardly a meaningful limitation for a high winged airplane with plenty of rudder to go around.