Waffen SS Squad?

[CAP1]

Well, you dont have to like the equation.  Fact remain, someone made a choice and people died as a result of it.

and as much as i would never want to have to make such a choice, it was probablyt he only sensible choice back then...given the technology available.......

[CAP1]

The Japanese leadership is at fault for these figures. They put the events in motion the moment the first bomb fell on Pearl Harbor.

 

wow! someone actually realizes that?

[Bodhi]

And the Japanese citizens, who, do to the fact that Japan was a monarchy had absolutely no push in the matter, should have payed for it?

You should perhaps ask that question to the millions of Americans who were thrust into a war they did not want by the japs.

[SkyRock]

You should perhaps ask that question to the millions of Americans who were thrust into a war they did not want by the japs.

Jap monarchy, I think is what he was saying.  I wonder what the japanese people were told before the start of the war.

[Bronk]

I never condemned the actions taken against the Empire of Japan to defeat it. However, I think the stance that we 'punished' it by killing innocent civilians is... wrong.

I think attacking a Naval port without a declaration is war is wrong.

[Overlag]

not every german was a nazi.... remember that

[Oldman731]

I never condemned the actions taken against the Empire of Japan to defeat it. However, I think the stance that we 'punished' it by killing innocent civilians is... wrong.

Agreed.  The notion of laying waste after you've already won is a bad one.  But that isn't what we did, of course.

- oldman

[moot]

I think attacking a Naval port without a declaration is war is wrong.

Two wrongs don't make a right.  What mattered once engaged in war was to secure a satisfactory outcome.  With Nazi Germany pwned, and Japan reduced to defending its own land, it was just a matter of finding the quickest way to end the war.  My 2 yens.

[Anaxogoras]

I think attacking a Naval port without a declaration is war is wrong.

It is a shame that our legislature has abnegated the same responsibility.

[Angus]

Two wrongs don't make a right.  What mattered once engaged in war was to secure a satisfactory outcome.  With Nazi Germany pwned, and Japan reduced to defending its own land, it was just a matter of finding the quickest way to end the war.  My 2 yens.

Yep, and time ment lives. The quick way was life saving....turned out like that.

[Bronk]

It is a shame that our legislature has abnegated the same responsibility.

Realy?

[Anaxogoras]

When was the last time that congress voted to officially declare war?  WWII.  I had to check to make sure we didn't declare war for the korean war, and we didn't.  Lots and lots of congressional authorizations, but it's a way for congress to cover its bellybutton so that when %#*! goes wrong they can blame someone else.

What can I say, it's written in the constitution that congress has the power to declare war.  This goes along with our signing up for all sorts of treaties that we break time and time again.  We ought not to sign them unless we plan to honor them.  Intentionally bombing civilians is a great example of this.

[evenhaim]

When was the last time that congress voted to officially declare war?  WWII.  I had to check to make sure we didn't declare war for the korean war, and we didn't.  Lots and lots of congressional authorizations, but it's a way for congress to cover its bellybutton so that when %#*! goes wrong they can blame someone else.

What can I say, it's written in the constitution that congress has the power to declare war.  This goes along with our signing up for all sorts of treaties that we break time and time again.  We ought not to sign them unless we plan to honor them.  Intentionally bombing civilians is a great example of this.

I wasnt aware you can declare war on a faction or guerilla force.... which has been the situation since korea... and im not sure if your congress voted to, but Bush 2 did declare war on iraq, as he did on terrorism(broad umbrella statement but still liable as a declaration).

[Anaxogoras]

I wasnt aware you can declare war on a faction or guerilla force.... which has been the situation since korea... and im not sure if your congress voted to, but Bush 2 did declare war on iraq, as he did on terrorism(broad umbrella statement but still liable as a declaration).

Bush declaring war is not a declaration of war because the constitution does not give him that institutional power.

[MajIssue]

I let you guess as to my opinion...

I hold the same opinion...  If WaffenSS is OK, then would KKKnights be acceptable also?