South Osetia under attack

[MORAY37]

No worries Boroda.  Our idiot Comman"duh" in chief has already brought all of our forces to the point that they couldn't put out an outhouse fire in Mexico, let alone send any type of significant combat force anywhere outside of a thousand miles from the US.  U.S. involvement in this will be minimal at most, political pressure to end it before oil prices rise again being most likely.  The timing of this little charade should be viewed as most interesting.  Georgians may have started it, (as per your russian media....) but I think they may have stolen a page from our playbook.. See "Gulf of Tonkin Incident".
Sad, in any case that it appears that civilian centers are being targetted almost exclusively.  It's only been a matter of time before this was going to happen.... the heat has been climbing there for months.

[Yeager]

has already brought all of our forces to the point that they couldn't put out an outhouse fire in Mexico

where do you make this stuff up?

[REP0MAN]

So they have already completely destroyed a big city? In couple of hours?

Dang, I thought Atlanta was such a nice city too.

[Suave]

The bottom line is that almost everybody in south ossetia doesn't want to be part of Georgia. People should have the right to self determination, regardless if they are kosovar or ossetian.

Eastern europeans must be the most nationalistic people on the planet. Nationalistic to the point where often in their news sources the word ethnic is often substituted for the word nationality. For them the concepts have been blurred into one. Stupidity of a tragic magnitude. 

[mora]

Looks like the Georgians attacked so WTFG russia for helping South Osetia'ns  Bomb the attacking army to fine powder.

Shouldn't they just turn the other cheek?

[AKIron]

where do you make this stuff up?

It's wishful thinking, or ignorance.

[Elfie]

Georgians must be nuts if they also declare war on Russia. If they are dumb enough to do so just smash their military.

I have no sympathy for any nation attacking another, and in this case it looks like the Georgians started. Show them the door and get some valuable weapons testing done in the process. 

South Osetia is not a country by itself at this point in time. It has been and is trying to break away from Georgia, Georgia is resisting those efforts.

[Elfie]

The bottom line is that almost everybody in south ossetia doesn't want to be part of Georgia. People should have the right to self determination, regardless if they are kosovar or ossetian.

The last vote on independence in that area, very few Georgians participated in the vote, hence why South Osetia's independence hasn't been recognized.

[Elfie]

Just curious: how many Americans want another war, this time with Russia, to save mass-murderers who completely destroyed a big city killing thousands last night, carpet-bombing and using rocket artillery against apartment blocks?

Let's see some pictures of that city that got completely destroyed. Let's also see some pictures of the Georgian bombers that are capable of carpet bombing.

Btw, the pictures of the Georgian tanks you posted sure look like Soviet built tanks to me and not M-60s or M-1s. More bogus crap from you.

[indy007]

Actually the bulk of Georgian gear would be inherited ex-Soviet hardware. T-72s, Flankers, RPGs, and AKs galore. There is/was a huge market selling off ex-republic gear to African warlords.


edit: would still like some pictures though. the press coverage is paltry so far.

[Elfie]

would still like some pictures though. the press coverage is paltry so far.

Yes, and there are conflicting reports on who started it.

[MORAY37]

where do you make this stuff up?

They hide it in the AP....you know... where you may have to READ it, you troglodite.

WASHINGTON — A classified Pentagon assessment concludes that long battlefield tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, along with persistent terrorist activity and other threats, have prevented the U.S. military from improving its ability to respond to any new crisis, The Associated Press has learned.

Despite security gains in Iraq, there is still a "significant" risk that the strained U.S. military cannot quickly and fully respond to another outbreak elsewhere in the world, according to the report.

Last year the Pentagon raised that threat risk from "moderate" to "significant." This year, the report will maintain that "significant" risk level _ pointing to the U.S. military's ongoing struggle against a stubborn insurgency in Iraq and its lead role in the NATO-led war in Afghanistan.

The Pentagon, however, will say that efforts to increase the size of the military, replace equipment and bolster partnerships overseas will help lower the risk over time, defense officials said Friday. They spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the classified report.

Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has completed the risk assessment, and it is expected to be delivered to Capitol Hill this month. Because he has concluded the risk is significant, his report will include a letter from Defense Secretary Robert Gates outlining steps the Pentagon is taking to reduce it.

The risk level was raised to significant last year by Mullen's predecessor, Marine Gen. Peter Pace.

On Capitol Hill this week, Mullen provided a glimpse into his thinking on the review. And Pentagon officials Friday confirmed that the assessment is finished and acknowledged some of the factors Gates will cite in his letter.

"The risk has basically stayed consistent, stayed steady," Mullen told the House Armed Services Committee. "It is significant."

He said the 15-month tours in Iraq and Afghanistan are too long and must be reduced to 12 months, with longer rest periods at home. "We continue to build risk with respect to that," he said.

Other key national security challenges include threats from countries that possess weapons of mass destruction, as well as the need to replace equipment worn out and destroyed during more than six years of war.

[MORAY37]

It's wishful thinking, or ignorance.

Again, simply read (see: Stop watching FOX news) and you will understand.

WASHINGTON — A classified Pentagon assessment concludes that long battlefield tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, along with persistent terrorist activity and other threats, have prevented the U.S. military from improving its ability to respond to any new crisis, The Associated Press has learned.

Despite security gains in Iraq, there is still a "significant" risk that the strained U.S. military cannot quickly and fully respond to another outbreak elsewhere in the world, according to the report.

Last year the Pentagon raised that threat risk from "moderate" to "significant." This year, the report will maintain that "significant" risk level _ pointing to the U.S. military's ongoing struggle against a stubborn insurgency in Iraq and its lead role in the NATO-led war in Afghanistan.

The Pentagon, however, will say that efforts to increase the size of the military, replace equipment and bolster partnerships overseas will help lower the risk over time, defense officials said Friday. They spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the classified report.

Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has completed the risk assessment, and it is expected to be delivered to Capitol Hill this month. Because he has concluded the risk is significant, his report will include a letter from Defense Secretary Robert Gates outlining steps the Pentagon is taking to reduce it.

The risk level was raised to significant last year by Mullen's predecessor, Marine Gen. Peter Pace.

On Capitol Hill this week, Mullen provided a glimpse into his thinking on the review. And Pentagon officials Friday confirmed that the assessment is finished and acknowledged some of the factors Gates will cite in his letter.

"The risk has basically stayed consistent, stayed steady," Mullen told the House Armed Services Committee. "It is significant."

He said the 15-month tours in Iraq and Afghanistan are too long and must be reduced to 12 months, with longer rest periods at home. "We continue to build risk with respect to that," he said.

Other key national security challenges include threats from countries that possess weapons of mass destruction, as well as the need to replace equipment worn out and destroyed during more than six years of war.

[KgB]

See Rules #4, #5, #7

[007Rusty]

theres some pic's and vid. on the yahoo home page and on the cnn site ..