Why do people hate BnZ?

[captain1ma]

bnz works for people that don't have the skills to turn fight. if it works, have at it, but you're missing alot of the game by using that tactic. just my 2 cents

[Guppy35]

I think the reference is "Bore and Snore"

I don't know that I hate BnZ.  What I think is frustrating are the guys who hang over someone else's fight and run in at light speed hoping to pick while the other guy is busy.  That's not surgical, only opportunistic, and often at the expense of a team mate who may be enjoying that fight only to have someone come down and take it from him.

Some guy in a high Tempest doing that is about as much fun to fight as a toothache.

That being said, if some guy up high finds my low 38G all by my lonesome, feel free to BnZ away.  I'll do my best to avoid your passes, bleed off your E and frustrate you enough that you'll end up turning with me anyway

[Yenny]

I wouldn't say us BnZmer don't know how to turnfight, we might not be as good as the rest of the tnbner but we can usually do okay.

[Yenny]

I think the reference is "Bore and Snore"

I don't know that I hate BnZ.  What I think is frustrating are the guys who hang over someone else's fight and run in at light speed hoping to pick while the other guy is busy.  That's not surgical, only opportunistic, and often at the expense of a team mate who may be enjoying that fight only to have someone come down and take it from him.

Some guy in a high Tempest doing that is about as much fun to fight as a toothache.

That being said, if some guy up high finds my low 38G all by my lonesome, feel free to BnZ away.  I'll do my best to avoid your passes, bleed off your E and frustrate you enough that you'll end up turning with me anyway

BnZ only fun in furball area, where there are a gazillion of people on each other's tail. It's dumb to BnZ a 1 v 1, maybe you can E fight. Rope the guy, w/ ur left wing pointin at him as you go up, so that as soon as he stall out. You would nose over and come straight at him, of course with that said you gotta be close to him at the same time to give him the shot to bait him to follow ya up!

[Kuhn]

I think the reference is "Bore and Snore"

I don't know that I hate BnZ.  What I think is frustrating are the guys who hang over someone else's fight and run in at light speed hoping to pick while the other guy is busy.  That's not surgical, only opportunistic, and often at the expense of a team mate who may be enjoying that fight only to have someone come down and take it from him.

Some guy in a high Tempest doing that is about as much fun to fight as a toothache.

That being said, if some guy up high finds my low 38G all by my lonesome, feel free to BnZ away.  I'll do my best to avoid your passes, bleed off your E and frustrate you enough that you'll end up turning with me anyway

Ditto   

[Chalenge]

Forgive my faulty memory BnZs I was thinking you were in a pony the last time I met you. I cant imagine who has a handle similar to yours but whoever I was thinking of was in a pony. I dont even remember when this fight happened. 

[Zazen13]

BnZ only fun in furball area, where there are a gazillion of people on each other's tail. It's dumb to BnZ a 1 v 1, maybe you can E fight. Rope the guy, w/ ur left wing pointin at him as you go up, so that as soon as he stall out. You would nose over and come straight at him, of course with that said you gotta be close to him at the same time to give him the shot to bait him to follow ya up!

I BnZ single cons all the time, it's called "bouncing". The best tactic is to under-commit on the first pass, presuming they see you, then use that information on how they behaved to get them on the 2nd attempt by anticipating what they will likely do.

[Yenny]

I BnZ single cons all the time, it's called "bouncing". The best tactic is to under-commit on the first pass, presuming they see you, then use that information on how they behaved to get them on the 2nd attempt by anticipating what they will likely do.

I mean, I use BnZ vs TnB planes when I am in D9. If it's 51,47, FWs, and tiffies, I'd just tnb them with my D9. If it's like spit and them other tnb plane, I'd sucker them into an E fight.

[Zazen13]

I mean, I use BnZ vs TnB planes when I am in D9. If it's 51,47, FWs, and tiffies, I'd just tnb them with my D9. If it's like spit and them other tnb plane, I'd sucker them into an E fight.

Well BnZing is really just E fighting in its most lopsided form Energy wise. A lot of good E fights begin with BnZing and evolve from there as the energy disparity decreases.

[BnZ]

I am very sorry for the wording of my post then Chalenge, I will delete it. Just a misunderstanding. There is a "Bonz" who plays I believe. I haven't flown a pony this tour, and probably not the last one.

<S> and very Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Forgive my faulty memory BnZs I was thinking you were in a pony the last time I met you. I cant imagine who has a handle similar to yours but whoever I was thinking of was in a pony. I dont even remember when this fight happened. 

[BnZ]

bnz works for people that don't have the skills to turn fight. if it works, have at it, but you're missing alot of the game by using that tactic. just my 2 cents

No, it really doesn't. It is much easier to get a kill from the saddle in a plane that turns as well or better than the bandit, than try to hit an evading bandit while coming in with greater speed. The ONLY reason to bnz/e-fight, rather than dump speed and get in the saddle, is if your plane cannot turn with the bandit plane long enough to get a kill or if commiting to that lone opponent is a bad idea, owing to other bandits possibly in the area with unknown numbers and E-states.