Hello Gustav!!!!

[RATTFINK]

I rely on a president to lead, in this case, he did not.  He did nothing.

The real question is; Where was Mr Choclate City and the Governor of LA. ????   

States have Governors & Cities have Mayors for a reason.  The FACT is that the two people who should have taken charge, didn’t. 

And don’t get me started on the levies… ok I will LOL!... The levies where known to be unstable if a Cat 2 or stronger where to hit the New Orleans area and that the city would be under water.  This was known for over 30 years if not longer.

[Hangtime]

If you are dirt poor and have no relatives outside the danger zone just where exactly does one go and how do they get there?

Kinda depends on their swimming skills, doncha think?

[CAP1]

The real question is; Where was Mr Choclate City and the Governor of LA. ????   

States have Governors & Cities have Mayors for a reason.  The FACT is that the two people who should have taken charge, didn’t. 

And don’t get me started on the levies… ok I will LOL!... The levies where known to be unstable if a Cat 2 or stronger where to hit the New Orleans area and that the city would be under water.  This was known for over 30 years if not longer.

welllll now lets see........

they bought homes below sea level. below sea level witgh the knowledge that a good storm could break the levies. it's no one's fault but their own.

[RATTFINK]

That is why I added the last paragraph.

[BBBB]

I rely on a president to lead, in this case, he did not.  He did nothing.

 What part of he could not act without the proper authorization don't you get? I bet you were just mesmerized by the hippo in an orange pant suit last night, weren't you?

[Curval]

Kinda depends on their swimming skills, doncha think?

I suppose so.

I have to point out though that this kind of *problem* is not limited to New Orleans.  The whole Gulf Coast and southern East Coast is like a big trailer park sitting in tornado alley.

You Americans just never learn.

How many devastating hurricanes have hit the aforementioned regions of the US?  How many times have people built the same houses or buildings on the same land and time after time been hammered?

Probably hundreds if you go back to say...1895?

We got hit by two on one day back in 1712.

Since then we got our act together.

http://www.theroyalgazette.com/siftology.royalgazette/Article/article.jsp?articleId=7d67a0f3003002c&sectionId=49

"Information and historical records on hurricanes prior to 1895 are scarce, but there is a record dating from 1712 when the first of two severe hurricanes hit the Island on September 8.
Many of Bermuda’s historical buildings, including St. Peter’s Church in St. George’s, were damaged.
Since Bermuda’s first settlers had built almost everything out of cedar wood, including commercial buildings and churches, many were destroyed.
It was as a direct result of these hurricanes that the decision was taken to construct buildings from limestone, as opposed to wood and thus withstand hurricanes better.
New construction methods were developed to cut stone from hillsides to create solid limestone buildings of which many still exist."

Every home here is like a hurricane shelter in the US.  Every building too.

Fabian hit us and was as bad as Katrina but bigger.  If it wasn't a Saturday I would have gone to work the next day.

[SkyRock]

LMAO, u Bushies are a hoot!  Bush will go down in history as the most moronic president ever, and u guys cant let go of his ankle long enuff to see his foot in your arse.

[Hornet33]

LMAO, u Bushies are a hoot!  Bush will go down in history as the most moronic president ever, and u guys cant let go of his ankle long enuff to see his foot in your arse.

I've NEVER claimed to be a fan of Bush. I'd say the same thing if it was Clinton in the white house. The President does NOT have the authority to provide federal assistance UNTILL the local and state governments request that assistance.

So what was he supposed to do? Wait don't tell me "He could have done something!!"  Well no he couldn't. The Mayor of NO could have, and the Gov. of LA could have but those two decided to sit on their butts for 4 days while the people they were elected to represent and protect were dying.

The fault for the crappy response lies squarly on the local and state officials that did nothing.

LMAO you anti Bushies are a hoot. You can't remove your heads from your own tulips long enough to know what a president can and can't do, and you'll go down in history as the most moronic group of people ever.

See I can do it too.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

LMAO, u Bushies are a hoot!  Bush will go down in history as the most moronic president ever, and u guys cant let go of his ankle long enuff to see his foot in your arse.

Note that THIS time, Bobby Jindal has declared a state of emergency, in advance of a possible hurricane. Note that neither NO or LA has followed suit. Now, if nothing happens, Jindal will be accused of being an alarmist. If a hurricane hits the region, Jindal will get no credit for advance preparation, but the Feds will be criticized for their lack of response, except for where Jindal got ready. And it won't be the fault of the mayors or governors who do not get ready.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

This just in: The governor of LA, following the lead of Bobby Jindal, has declared a state of emergency.

[Slash27]

I've NEVER claimed to be a fan of Bush. I'd say the same thing if it was Clinton in the white house. The President does NOT have the authority to provide federal assistance UNTILL the local and state governments request that assistance.

So what was he supposed to do? Wait don't tell me "He could have done something!!"  Well no he couldn't. The Mayor of NO could have, and the Gov. of LA could have but those two decided to sit on their butts for 4 days while the people they were elected to represent and protect were dying.

The fault for the crappy response lies squarly on the local and state officials that did nothing.

LMAO you anti Bushies are a hoot. You can't remove your heads from your own tulips long enough to know what a president can and can't do, and you'll go down in history as the most moronic group of people ever.

See I can do it too.

 

[SkyRock]

I've NEVER claimed to be a fan of Bush. I'd say the same thing if it was Clinton in the white house. The President does NOT have the authority to provide federal assistance UNTILL the local and state governments request that assistance.

So what was he supposed to do? Wait don't tell me "He could have done something!!"  Well no he couldn't. The Mayor of NO could have, and the Gov. of LA could have but those two decided to sit on their butts for 4 days while the people they were elected to represent and protect were dying.

The fault for the crappy response lies squarly on the local and state officials that did nothing.

LMAO you anti Bushies are a hoot. You can't remove your heads from your own tulips long enough to know what a president can and can't do, and you'll go down in history as the most moronic group of people ever.

See I can do it too.

I garuntee any other president in history would have had troops on the ground in force within 24 hours of landfall. 

National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.),

 

[Elfie]

I garuntee any other president in history would have had troops on the ground in force within 24 hours of landfall. 

National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.),

 

Katrina wasn't a national emergency, it was a local emergency.


Btw....its guarantee.....not garuntee.....   

[Elfie]

Apparently the National Emergencies Act isn't in effect just to allow Emergencies to be declared or to allow the President to act as Skyrock's post implies but to limit executive power and force formal declarations of said emergencies and which emergency powers are to be invoked.

The National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601-1651) is a United States federal law passed in 1976 to stop open-ended states of national emergency and formalize Congressional checks and balances on Presidential emergency powers. The act sets a limit of two years on states of national emergency. It also imposes certain "procedural formalities" on the President when invoking such powers, and provides a means for Congress to countermand a Presidential declaration of emergency and associated use of emergency powers.

The perceived need for the law arose from the scope and number of laws granting special powers to the Executive in times of national emergency (or public danger). At least two Constitutional protections are subject to revocation during a state of emergency:

    * The right of habeas corpus, under Article 1, Section 9;
    * The right to a Grand Jury for members of the National Guard when in actual service, under 5th Amendment of the Bill of Rights.

In addition, many provisions of statutory law -- as many as 500 by one count (ref. 1) -- are contingent on a state of national emergency.

It was due in part to concern that a declaration of "emergency" for one purpose should not invoke every possible executive emergency power that Congress in 1976 passed the National Emergencies Act. Among other provisions, this act requires the President to declare formally a national emergency and to specify the statutory authorities to be used under such a declaration.

There were 32 declared national emergencies between 1976 and 2001. (Ref. 3) Most of these were for the purpose of restricting trade with certain foreign entities under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) (50 U.S.C. 1701-1707). A notable exception was the "Declaration of National Emergency by Reason Of Certain Terrorist Attacks" by President George W. Bush (September 14, 2001), which cited nine specific authorities related to military personnel matters, such as calling up of reserves and exceeding strength limits. Contrary to concerns expressed at the time (e.g., Ref. 1), this declaration has not been cited as supporting any other emergency powers, although different arguments have been made for other emergency powers for which no declaration of emergency was ever made public under the National Emergencies Act: see NSA warrantless surveillance controversy.

[Hangtime]

Btw....its guarantee.....not garuntee.....   

A Cajun would say it just like he spelled it.