Author Topic: Hello Gustav!!!!  (Read 1775 times)

Offline Hornet33

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Hello Gustav!!!!
« on: August 27, 2008, 01:21:33 PM »
So if Gustav follows the predicted path and pumps back up to a Cat 2-3, do you think the folks down in New Orleans will get the heck out of dodge this time around, or will we see Katrina part II?



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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2008, 01:37:05 PM »
Probably...some people will never learn. They'll be screaming it's the governments fault again, Bush will get blamed for blowing up the levee's, there will be looting and shooting. I love my state.

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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2008, 01:40:56 PM »
Probably...some people will never learn. They'll be screaming it's the governments fault again, Bush will get blamed for blowing up the levee's, there will be looting and shooting. I love my state.
Does the president have any way to help the people of a possible natural disaster before it hits?


Maybe you need to retrieve your head from Pres. Bush's posterior and realize that he bunged that situation up by not being pro-active with the help.  Now, that is not to say that there wasn't blame on the state of louisiana's part as well, but Bush simply did nothing........oh....except vacation. :aok

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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2008, 01:51:30 PM »
I hate to mention this, but...

I've worked in emergency management for 11 years in State of Louisiana. Katrina was a huge screw up on all levels, but it starts at the local level. When and if you ever bother to do research, you'll see, instead you rely on the media for information Skyrock...shame on you.

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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2008, 02:01:07 PM »
Does the president have any way to help the people of a possible natural disaster before it hits?


Maybe you need to retrieve your head from Pres. Bush's posterior and realize that he bunged that situation up by not being pro-active with the help.  Now, that is not to say that there wasn't blame on the state of louisiana's part as well, but Bush simply did nothing........oh....except vacation. :aok

Once again, maybe you'll get it THIS time. The FEDERAL government has to be INVITED. And, by the way, MUCH of the Federal help WAS ready to go BEFORE it was asked for.
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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2008, 02:01:51 PM »
Does the president have any way to help the people of a possible natural disaster before it hits?


Maybe you need to retrieve your head from Pres. Bush's posterior and realize that he bunged that situation up by not being pro-active with the help.  Now, that is not to say that there wasn't blame on the state of louisiana's part as well, but Bush simply did nothing........oh....except vacation. :aok

The Federal Agencies with a few exceptions such as the Coast Guard are NOT allowed by law to do anything UNTIL the states request federal assistance. The sad truth is that FEMA and a host of other agencies were ready to go before Katrina hit (I know because I had warning orders to go TAD from my Coast Guard command to assist FEMA in setting up communications in the area) 2 days before Katrina made landfall. It took days after it hit before a formal request was ever received at the federal level. The state government failed to be pro-active, not Bush.

But for the sake of argument, had Bush been pro-active and sent in Federal troops, and law enforcement, to take control of the situation before being asked by the state, what do you think people would have said? You know damn well he would have been raked over the coals for violating the states rights, and over exceeding his powers as President.

The only fault in that situation was at the local and state government level. As soon as the federal request was sent, the Feds were on the way ready to go to work. We hit the ground running once we were finally asked to show up.
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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2008, 02:05:30 PM »
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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2008, 02:07:21 PM »
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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2008, 03:20:10 PM »
The majority of the situation still boils down to personal responsibility.  It's your own dang fault if you stay in the way and expect other people to get you out. 

Back on topic, that looks like one heck of a storm. 
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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2008, 03:52:50 PM »
The majority of the situation still boils down to personal responsibility.  It's your own dang fault if you stay in the way and expect other people to get you out. 

Back on topic, that looks like one heck of a storm. 

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Offline RATTFINK

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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2008, 03:57:49 PM »
Katrina part II???  Hell, most of the NOLA's are still in Houston.
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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2008, 03:59:41 PM »
I hope it hits hard...in a way (I'm in Tennessee in need of rain  :D)  but i do NOT want another Katrina
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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2008, 04:16:16 PM »
as not all of the slums were rebuild in NO, there will be less of an issue if they need to evacuate again....



there will be plenty of room on the buses if the local government acts properly and actually uses them this time.

I think LA is in much better hands these days and by default so is NO

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depending on high pressure east of here, if it weakens the cane might swing more east then I'd want to see

and to blame Bush for Katrina damage is right up there with the CIA staging 9/11 .. does wonders for ones credibility
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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2008, 04:17:48 PM »
oh i hope not, my grandfather lives in New Orleans. his house was demolished during Katrina and he (stupidly) rebuilt his house. he real scared that it iwll happen agian. pray that it doesn;t  :pray :frown:

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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2008, 04:42:26 PM »
I hate to mention this, but...

I've worked in emergency management for 11 years in State of Louisiana. Katrina was a huge screw up on all levels, but it starts at the local level. When and if you ever bother to do research, you'll see, instead you rely on the media for information Skyrock...shame on you.
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