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Offline Hangtime

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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #60 on: August 30, 2008, 12:28:43 AM »

I'd say a major hurricaine with 10,000 deaths might fall under section 2b. :aok

They'd hardly raise an eyebrow. What's got 'em interested is the oil rigs in the gulf and the refineries along the coast.

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Offline Holden McGroin

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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #61 on: August 30, 2008, 12:38:22 AM »
Does the president have any way to help the people of a possible natural disaster before it hits?

WTF?

If we would have put all New Orleans in FEMA trailers before Katrina hit it would have tripled the casualties.

Those trailers are deathtraps in high winds.

I mean what are you thinking?
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Offline MORAY37

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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #62 on: August 30, 2008, 01:34:32 AM »
What part of he could not act without the proper authorization don't you get? I bet you were just mesmerized by the hippo in an orange pant suit last night, weren't you?

Presidential power check, 101.

Can invade/attack foreign nation and not be accountable for 90 days. (True)

but...

Cannot mobilize humanitarian aid within own country during disaster, without invitation. (FALSE)

That may be the dumbest thing I've seen posted.  A real chief exectutive, one that leads and takes the responsibility of the position seriously would have moved much quicker than this one did.  Yes, the entire organization (FEMA) was a failure after Katrina.... without exception.  Although it is not implicitly Mr. Bush's fault, he is complicit in it's failure, if only for not doing one thing.... LEADING.  Playing "pass the buck" because FEMA needed to be "invited" is completely ludacris.... especially when such a large area was devastated. 
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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #63 on: August 30, 2008, 10:29:47 AM »
"Those among New Orleans' estimated 310,000 to 340,000 residents who ignore orders to leave accept "all responsibility for themselves and their loved ones," the city's emergency preparedness director, Jerry Sneed, has warned."

I hope folks get out. 

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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #64 on: August 31, 2008, 11:11:57 PM »
So if Gustav follows the predicted path and pumps back up to a Cat 2-3, do you think the folks down in New Orleans will get the heck out of dodge this time around, or will we see Katrina part II?

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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #65 on: August 31, 2008, 11:19:56 PM »
It's looking like a miss for NO.

This time around the evacuation will likely cost more than the storm. ;)



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Offline Holden McGroin

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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #66 on: September 01, 2008, 12:57:45 AM »
Looks like the center track is aiming west of NO for Latfayette, but the east side of the eye (what eye there is) is where the highest winds are, and the storm surge is still predicted to hit the delta hard.



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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #67 on: September 01, 2008, 01:07:09 AM »
More people died in Katrina than in 9/11.

 :huh Really?

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« Reply #68 on: September 01, 2008, 01:29:10 AM »
:huh Really?

It depends on what political point you are trying to get across.  The first hit on Google I got says so, but in a report published online August 28, 2008, and which will appear in the October print edition of the Journal Disaster Medicine and Public Health Preparedness,

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/20080828-1405-katrinadeathtoll.html

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Dr. Raoult Ratard, Louisiana's state epidemiologist and a co-author of the report, said plans are under way to help New Orleans' residents including the elderly prepare for the current storm, Gustav, which some projections say could hit Louisiana with hurricane strength in coming days.

“We're in the waiting period right now,” Ratard said.

The new report focuses on deaths directly related to Katrina in Louisiana, and on deaths of Louisiana residents who fled to other states. It's based on death certificates listing Katrina as the main or contributing cause and data from a federal disaster response team. The researchers counted 971 Katrina-related deaths in Louisiana, mostly in New Orleans, and 15 deaths among residents who fled out of state.

The time period was Aug. 27 to Oct. 31, 2005, which includes deaths in car crashes on evacuation routes and from injuries suffered during the storm.

The previously reported death toll for all Katrina victims has been put at 1,698. That includes bodies collected in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, and Louisiana residents who died in other states in the month after Katrina.
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Re: Hello Gustav!!!!
« Reply #69 on: September 01, 2008, 11:42:10 AM »
It depends on what political point you are trying to get across.  The first hit on Google I got says so, but in a report published online August 28, 2008, and which will appear in the October print edition of the Journal Disaster Medicine and Public Health Preparedness,

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/20080828-1405-katrinadeathtoll.html


Skyrock claims 10,000?  How could someone be so far off?  Target fixation?