Texas

[Jackal1]

Snow Capped Mountains!  wait...

Franklin Mountains. Next.

[WWhiskey]

there, enough said!

[Holden McGroin]

Franklin Mountains. Next.

7,192 feet?

In order to be snowcapped, you need snow on it year round.


Snowcapped


Not snowcapped

[Timofei]

The major reason Texas wanted independency:
Many of the Anglo-American settlers owned slaves. Texas was granted a one-year exemption from Mexico's 1829 edict outlawing slavery but Mexican president Anastasio Bustamante ordered that all slaves be freed in 1830.To circumvent the law, many Anglo colonists converted their slaves into indentured servants for life. By 1836 there were 5,000 slaves in Texas.
In 1836, the Texans adopted a constitution that formally legalized slavery. The Republic of Texas included the area of the present state of Texas, and additional unoccupied territory to the west and northwest. Most Texans wanted their Republic to be annexed into the United States. However, strong abolitionist opposition to adding a slave state blocked Texas's admission until pro-annexation James K. Polk won the election of 1844.

The Nueces massacre was a violent confrontation between Confederate soldiers and German Texans on August 10, 1862 in Kinney County, Texas.
German Texans tended to support the Union and had few slaves. Gillespie and other central Hill Country counties had voted against secession. By August 1862, a party of 61 German Texans from the Hill Country counties, who were fleeing to Mexico, was overtaken by the Texas Confederate cavalrymen on the Nueces River. Shots were fired and as a result 34 German Texans were killed, with some being executed after being taken prisoner. The Germans from Central Texas were fortunate to avoid such violence. They successfully traveled to Mexico City under the leadership of Paul Machemehl of Austin County.
The Treüe der Union ("True to the Union") monument to the German Texans slain at the Nueces massacre was dedicated on August 10, 1866 and sits in Comfort, where the remains of the Unionists are interred. It is the oldest Civil War monument in Texas and the only one dedicated to Union sympathizers in all of the former Confederate States of America (apart from national cemeteries).

Sources, look Wikipedia or book. I'm too tired to argue with hicks right now.

[CptTrips]

Did the Mexicans not steal that territory from the Amerinds?  Yes or No.

Wab

[Elfie]

My point is that they are taking it back, peacefully and justifiably.

I gotta ask.....since Texas won their independence from Mexico without outside help, just how is Mexico justified in taking it back?

[Wyld45]

By the rules of the era, the Texans came by their republic fain 'n square.

Sour grapes revisionist history won't get Texas back to Mexico.

Illegal Immigration and Latino revolt might.

                         Yep, and no more than Native Americans ever
                                 getting THEIR territories back. Hmmm,makes me
                                 think of another "Iron Maiden" song.

[Timofei]

Why would it belong to Mexico rightfully?

Wouldn't the Amerinds have prior claim?

If they stole it from the Amerinds, do they have a right to whine when we steal it from them?

Fact is, we won it by force of arms.  If they want it back, then let them field their troops.


Wab

Perhaps the Apache, Comanche, Tonkawa, and Hasinai tribes have the prior claim.

[CptTrips]

Perhaps the Apache, Comanche, Tonkawa, and Hasinai tribes have the prior claim.

So, then by your own admission,  Mexico doesn't have a legitimate claim to stand on.  Q.E.D.

"Mommy...Mommy...big bad Anglo's stole the land from us that we stole from the Indians!"

Suck it up Princess.

 ,
Wab








 

[Hangtime]

Perhaps the Apache, Comanche, Tonkawa, and Hasinai tribes have the prior claim.

They got casinos?

[DiabloTX]

I love liberals...they keep kleenex in business.

[USRanger]

Timofei's location is:Soon in Texas.  Coming in from the south by chance?

[Mr No Name]

Side Note:  WHY does HTC permit pot leaf icons and drug-related names like bongaroo and 420ace? 

[Bronk]

Side Note:  WHY does HTC permit pot leaf icons and drug-related names like bongaroo and 420ace? 

Do like yossarian does when offended......cry to mods.

[pxdig]

here we go, since I am a PROUD Texan (born and raised) I decided to throw in my $.02 worth.

Before I start, in an effort to prevent the personal attacks some on this board love to engage in, let me say what my perspective is. 


 Texas is simply the greatest land in the entire world.  I am thankful that the good lord blessed me by being born and living in the Lone Star State.  Texas should remain "as is" despite the fact that indepedence does sound so appealing. 

Having said that,
1.  We (USA) did steal it from Mexico.  Yes, we would like to think the "Texans" did it, but i would invite all of you to visit the Alamo (I live in San Antonio) and see the posters promising land to all Americans who fight for Texas.  I would also invite you all to see the STATE flags that hang in the hall of heroes, which are from every US state imaginable.  The Texas war of Independence was a mercenary war by the USA. It happens get over it.
2.  Mexico has NEVER made a claim to regain Texas in any international court or organization. 
3.  Illegal immigrants flee Mexico because they cant make a decent living there, so, they don't want to turn it into what they left.  I know many of you with GE D's will want to argue this point, please don't.
4.  The ignorant will scream "They are taking Texas back" just like they scream about the Irish, Japanese, Chinese, catholics, Italians, etc, etc.
5.  When a "Mexican" comes here and gets the right to vote and he votes in another "Mexican" blah, blah, blah, blah.  When any person gets the right to vote it is because he/she is an AMERICAN citizen.  You cannot be a governor, major, etc, without being am AMERICAN citizen.  What these people are complaining about is a person of Hispanic heritage voting or holding office.  That is textbook racism.
6.  Just my opinion.