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Offline JAGED

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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #75 on: September 09, 2008, 01:51:03 PM »
Quote from: Xargos on September 09, 2008, 01:49:17 PM
The vote only occurred after they killed off those who opposed their views.

I call B.S. on this one.  Source? Links?
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #76 on: September 09, 2008, 01:52:11 PM »
Quote from: JAGED on September 09, 2008, 01:46:22 PM
"It's so much easier to slam faith than it is to embrace it!"

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I try not to slam anything more than my door on religious nutballs. Being an agnostic, my official position is neutral. With the occasional fit of laughter.
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #77 on: September 09, 2008, 01:54:49 PM »
Quote from: Hangtime on September 09, 2008, 01:52:11 PM
I try not to slam anything more than my door on religious nutballs. Being an agnostic, my official position is neutral. With the occasional fit of laughter.

So, religious = nutballs.  Ok, now I know where you're coming from.  You might benefit from Pascal's Wager...
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #78 on: September 09, 2008, 01:55:01 PM »
well the truth is, and this is the truth, we will all find out one day.
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #79 on: September 09, 2008, 01:57:46 PM »
Quote from: SkyRock on September 09, 2008, 01:13:20 PM
blah blah blah, I comprehend just fine.  Whats your point, or maybe you have a problem conveying your thoughts!

I though perhaps your questions were serious. Obviously I was wrong. Fool me once....
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #80 on: September 09, 2008, 01:58:26 PM »
Quote from: john9001 on September 09, 2008, 01:55:01 PM
well the truth is, and this is the truth, we will all find out one day.

Not true! IF there' nothing, you'll never know...
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #81 on: September 09, 2008, 01:59:36 PM »
Quote from: JAGED on September 09, 2008, 01:54:49 PM
You might benefit from Pascal's Wager...
"Pascal's Wager (or Pascal's Gambit) is a suggestion posed by the French philosopher Blaise Pascal that even though the existence of God cannot be determined through reason, a person should "wager" as though God exists, because so living has potentially everything to gain, and certainly nothing to lose."
Nope, nothing to lose.... except basing your life around what Roman scholars decided was right centuries ago (if you decide to appease the Christian god), instead of living how you want to. But that's just a little thing. In any case it's impossible because if you have the sense to see that this is fairly logical then you would be aware enough to see that there are many 'gods' to appease and many of their opinions contradict.
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #82 on: September 09, 2008, 02:00:01 PM »
Faith is bliss? :lol
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #83 on: September 09, 2008, 02:02:34 PM »
Quote from: moot on September 09, 2008, 02:00:01 PM
Faith is bliss? :lol

Takes as much faith to believe there is no god as believing there is. Bliss comes to either when they stop questioning.
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #84 on: September 09, 2008, 02:04:49 PM »
Doesn't matter to me either way..
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #85 on: September 09, 2008, 02:06:01 PM »
Quote from: Motherland on September 09, 2008, 01:59:36 PM
"Pascal's Wager (or Pascal's Gambit) is a suggestion posed by the French philosopher Blaise Pascal that even though the existence of God cannot be determined through reason, a person should "wager" as though God exists, because so living has potentially everything to gain, and certainly nothing to lose."
Nope, nothing to lose.... except basing your life around what Roman scholars decided was right centuries ago, instead of living how you want to. But that's just a little thing. In any case it's impossible because if you have the sense to see that this is fairly logical then you would be aware enough to see that there are many 'gods' to appease and many of their opinions contradict.

Roman scholars is incorrect.  Christian Bishops through Apostolic succession would be more correct.  Besides, what's wrong with being nice to your neighbors, giving to the poor, etc.?  I suppose you might favor rape and pillage so you can live how you want to?  But that's just a little thing...

Pascal himself narrowed his Wager to the Abrahamic faiths alone.  
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #86 on: September 09, 2008, 02:08:56 PM »
The great trouble with religion - any religion - is that a religionist, having accepted certain propositions by faith, cannot thereafter judge those propositions by evidence.

I prefer reason.



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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #87 on: September 09, 2008, 02:11:25 PM »
Quote from: JAGED on September 09, 2008, 02:06:01 PM
 Besides, what's wrong with being nice to your neighbors, giving to the poor, etc.?  

Not a thing.. and I don't require 'the faith' to be a decent human being. Neither does anybody else capable of using his brain.
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #88 on: September 09, 2008, 02:12:29 PM »
Quote from: Hangtime on September 09, 2008, 02:08:56 PM
The great trouble with religion - any religion - is that a religionist, having accepted certain propositions by faith, cannot thereafter judge those propositions by evidence.

I prefer reason.





Nothing wrong with reason.  I reason that, I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it...   :salute
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Re: Christianity, is it
« Reply #89 on: September 09, 2008, 02:13:23 PM »
Quote from: JAGED on September 09, 2008, 02:06:01 PM
Roman scholars is incorrect.  Christian Bishops through Apostolic succession would be more correct.  Besides, what's wrong with being nice to your neighbors, giving to the poor, etc.?  I suppose you might favor rape and pillage so you can live how you want to?  But that's just a little thing...
My point was more along the lines of 'observing the sabbath', not eating fish on Fridays (I think that's just a Catholic thing though?), confession, not eating Pork,.... the finer points of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
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Pascal himself narrowed his Wager to the Abrahamic faiths alone.  
If you're wagering something that is illogical in the first place, why would you narrow it down? That itself is completely illogical.
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