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Offline DREDIOCK

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Re: Kind of a damning article on Palin
« Reply #105 on: September 14, 2008, 08:40:26 PM »
The Spanish Inquisition, the pinnacle of Christian oppression, pales in comparison to the deprivations and brutality of the left/communists/atheists.

I suggest you reread your  inquisition. All 605 years of it
Which involved possibly up to 50 million victims.
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And here are only some of the other cool toys they came up with.
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The Breast Ripper
Cold or red-hot, the four claws slowly ripped to formless masses the breasts of countless women condemned for heresy, blasphemy, adultery and many other “libidinous acts”, self-induced abortion, erotic white magic and other crimes. In various places at various times –in some regions of France and Germany until the early nineteenth century– a “bite” with a red-hot ripper was inflicted upon one breast of unmarried mothers, often whilst their creatures, splattered with maternal blood, writhed on the ground at their feet.

Besides the punitive function, breast-ripping also served as an interrogational and juridical procedure.

The Pear
 The pear was a device that expanded after being inserted orally, anally, or vaginally.  It was used to rupture the sensitive membranes and tissues of these areas.  With much of the damage being inside the body cavity, "confessions" thus extracted could seem to be freely given.


The Heretic’s Fork
With the four sharp points rammed deep into the flesh under the chin and into the bone of the sternum, the fork prevented all movement of the head and allowed the victim only to murmur, in a barely audible voice, “abiuro” (“I recant”, engraved on one side of the fork). If instead he still refused, and if the Inquisition was the Spanish one, he was held to be an “impenitent heretic” and, dressed in the characteristic costume, was led to the stake, but with the consolation of the sacrament if extreme unction; if instead it was the Papal Inquisition, he was hanged or burnt, without the benefit of the pretty costume but still with that of proper Christian rites.


The Judas Cradle
This procedure has remained essentially unchanged from the Middle Ages until today. The victim is hoisted up in the manner shown in the accompanying illustration, and lowered onto the point of the pyramid in such a way that his weight rests on the point positioned in the anus, in the vagina, under the apple or under the coccyx (the last two or three vertebrae). The executioner, according to the pleasure of the interrogators, could vary the pressure from zero to that of total body weight. The victim can be rocked, or made to fall repeatedly onto the point.
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Offline DREDIOCK

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Re: Kind of a damning article on Palin
« Reply #106 on: September 14, 2008, 08:48:20 PM »
How many were murdered by the Spanish during the "Inquisition" Skyrock? Do a little googling. Then google Stalin and Mao Tse Tung for starters. Then let's talk about intolerance, shall we?

The "inquisition" was done by a hell of alot more then just the Spanish.
England, France, Germany. and even Rome itself took part.
the Spanish are the ones most associated with it.
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Re: Kind of a damning article on Palin
« Reply #107 on: September 14, 2008, 08:49:31 PM »
.. mel brooks? ..

nevermind.
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Re: Kind of a damning article on Palin
« Reply #108 on: September 14, 2008, 09:09:33 PM »
The "inquisition" was done by a hell of alot more then just the Spanish.
England, France, Germany. and even Rome itself took part.
the Spanish are the ones most associated with it.

How many were killed by the Assembly of God church??????
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Re: Kind of a damning article on Palin
« Reply #109 on: September 14, 2008, 09:13:31 PM »
not much difference between the two as I see it. :aok

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Re: Kind of a damning article on Palin
« Reply #110 on: September 14, 2008, 09:14:20 PM »
Palin is a religious whackjob, and the majority of the people who love her are too.

I never go to church.  I love her political work.  Care to jab with this with out whining to Skuzzy?
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Re: Kind of a damning article on Palin
« Reply #111 on: September 14, 2008, 09:42:16 PM »
Ok.  What makes you think her political decisions are going to be governed by logic and reason rather than her thinking shes doing God's will?

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Re: Kind of a damning article on Palin
« Reply #112 on: September 14, 2008, 09:49:08 PM »
Ok.  What makes you think her political decisions are going to be governed by logic and reason rather than her thinking shes doing God's will?

Perhaps her fiscal responsibility with regards to earmarks for her state that grew out of control that she no longer supported.
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Re: Kind of a damning article on Palin
« Reply #113 on: September 14, 2008, 09:50:33 PM »
I could also add that your belief of her "belief in God's will" stems from a prayer that she put forth in hopes that our elected leaders were truly doing God's Will.
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Re: Kind of a damning article on Palin
« Reply #114 on: September 14, 2008, 09:53:17 PM »
I like Palin; I am not a churchgoer. I'm not voting for McC, I'm voting for Paul or Barr. But I still like Palin.

Here's the problem for libs, as laid out by a lib; this is why Palin is well-liked by a majority of the voters:

http://warner.blogs.nytimes.com/

Domestic Disturbances - Judith Warner

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...No, it wasn’t funny, my morning with the hockey and the soccer moms, the homeschooling moms and the book club moms, the joyful moms who brought their children to see history in the making and spun them on the lawn, dancing, when music played. It was sobering. It was serious. It was an education.

“Palin Power” isn’t just about making hockey moms feel important. It’s not just about giving abortion rights opponents their due. It’s also, in obscure ways, about making yearnings come true — deep, inchoate (Note: for us unwashed red staters she means: not yet completed or fully developed; rudimentary. We have rudimentary desires unlike the sophisticated fully developed desires that she has. Hold this thought till the end of the quote where you will see she doesn't understand her own conclusion or suggested solution.) :) desires about respect and service, hierarchy and family that have somehow been successfully projected onto the figure of this unlikely woman and have stuck.

For those of us who can’t tap into those yearnings, it seems the Palin faithful are blind – to the contradictions between her stated positions and the truth of the policies she espouses, to the contradictions between her ideology and their interests. But Jonathan Haidt, an associate professor of moral psychology at the University of Virginia, argues in an essay this month, “What Makes People Vote Republican?”, that it’s liberals, in fact, who are dangerously blind.

Haidt has conducted research in which liberals and conservatives were asked to project themselves into the minds of their opponents and answer questions about their moral reasoning. Conservatives, he said, prove quite adept at thinking like liberals, but liberals are consistently incapable of understanding the conservative point of view. “Liberals feel contempt for the conservative moral view, and that is very, very angering. Republicans are good at exploiting that anger,” <Edit: Well, DUH! Most people do get angry at elitist axeholes! I hope she didn't pay the Associate Professor too much for that incredible insight! </edit> he told me in a phone interview.

Perhaps that’s why the conservatives can so successfully get under liberals’ skin. And why liberals need to start working harder at breaking through the empathy barrier.

This is the basic explanation of why the libs are screwing themselves into the overhead over Palin as Veep. :)
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Re: Kind of a damning article on Palin
« Reply #115 on: September 14, 2008, 09:54:57 PM »
Ok.  What makes you think her political decisions are going to be governed by logic and reason rather than her thinking shes doing God's will?

It's a BS question.  Your assertion that she "thinks she's doing gods will" is based on a misquoted snippet from a speech she gave.  In fact, her reference to "gods will" in context was actually "I hope that our acts are carrying out god's will", which seems like a perfectly reasonable sentiment.

But of course, it's much more fun to twist it around to try to make her sound like a religious whacko.  Which she is not.  She made the perfectly reasonable statement that she hopes our actions are in accordance with God's will, not an assertion that she is in fact carrying out god's will.

If you won't admit to seeing the distinction there, you're either deliberately twisting the facts or hopelessly ignorant.  This particular mis-quote of Gov Palin was so thoroughly debunked at least a week ago that even MSNBC isn't talking about it anymore.
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Re: Kind of a damning article on Palin
« Reply #116 on: September 14, 2008, 10:48:59 PM »
Ok.  What makes you think her political decisions are going to be governed by logic and reason rather than her thinking shes doing God's will?

What the hell makes you think they won't? You libs are so scared of god stuff you make me wanna throw up.

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Re: Kind of a damning article on Palin
« Reply #117 on: September 15, 2008, 02:00:43 AM »
OK.  What makes you think her political decisions are going to be governed by logic and reason rather than her thinking shes doing God's will?


 well lets see,
 she has been doing a great job so far,
 80% approval rating, the highest ever for any gov.
she has done every thing she said she would up to this point, and it has worked,
 so no reason to believe she would change the way she does things if elected!

 but I'll play along a little farther,
 i don't go to church very often,
 but i do believe in god,
that said , if she is doing gods will, I'm not sure i would want her too change now,
 since it has worked out so well up to this point,

 i do understand why others might not want her to continue doing such a great job,
 why they might want her to throw her religion away,
and if she did,   she would not be the right person for the job!

 you don't have to agree with a good leader, a good person,
to know that they are good at heart,
 that they mean well,
 that they try to do good for others,
 and you don't have to be religious to do those things,
but if she sticks to her faith,
 then she will stick to other things as well,
 and that's character
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Re: Kind of a damning article on Palin
« Reply #118 on: September 15, 2008, 08:26:15 AM »
The "inquisition" was done by a hell of alot more then just the Spanish.
England, France, Germany. and even Rome itself took part.
the Spanish are the ones most associated with it.

How about some sources to back up your absurd claims of 50 million? Other than youtube I mean.
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Re: Kind of a damning article on Palin
« Reply #119 on: September 15, 2008, 08:30:32 AM »
wait a minute... are you guys saying that I didn't start the osamabama thing?  I know I was the first for osamabinbiden tho right?

anax..  years of public service don't mean squat.. in fact they should be punished if you make things worse.. the "communities" that he "organized"  are they better off now?   are we better off with him voting lockstep with teddy kennedy?   I don't think so.

Dred.. we do agree..  I fear the religious right gaining too much power almost as much as I fear the socialists gaining power.. it is power itself I fear.. the fact that power corrupts.

I believe in individualist freedom.   This means a very limited government.. government screws up everything it touches.. the less we have past fair courts the better.   The less taxes we give them the better off we will be.

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