What discussion you just keep saying how great the US is if you want to make something of yourself which based on the data is as true in most other northern european countries. Countries where they have greater state provision in education health and welfare. There is nothing in the Uk to stop you from starting a businees and making a fortune people do it all the time, Basic rate tax is 20% up to around 75,000 dollars a year then you pay 40%. If you can afford a good accountant you pay less than that. You have access to the largest free trade area which is the biggest single economic block in the world bigger than the US and China.
That combined with free healthcare, free education up to age 18 and then as of right grant assisted education to age 21 or beyond. A basic standard of living which is no more than adequate if you cant get work (you have to prove you are looking) or if you are sick. A pension and free healthcare in your retirement. And you call that socialism yet people have the opportunity to improve themselves and certainly do in equal measure in Britain and to a greater extent in other countries in Northern Europe than you do in the USA.
The problem you have is you dont know what you are talking about 
You marched in here and said:
BTW I heard the US has the lowest level of social mobility among the western democracies. So much for the American Dream 
I refuted that. You continually tout the greatness of the UK and Northern European economies and social mobility. I have maintained that the American Dream is alive and well if you want to work for it. You continually say that it is so much better "over there".
Than you brought foreign policy into it. I politely said I did not care what your opinion was on that, as it is the quickest way to an argument in here. You poke fun at my wanting to stay on the "American Dream" topic... Well... what is it, do we want to discuss your implications that the American Dream is dead?
Your obsession with bashing my country leads me to believe it is more envy than anything else. We have the ability to do anything we like in this country so long as it does not interfere with another's rights. This is to include pursuing are very own American Dream. No where does it say everyone will be rich, but for those that can't see the writing on the wall, you will be successful if you work for it.
You socialists look at those that have worked hard and earned lots of money and look to redistribute that wealth to those that did not earn it. That is BS in my book. Thankfully the poison of socialism has not taken a firm hold here, because when it does, I will exercise a few of my rights.
One last thing, I know more about this country and the American Dream because I am a part of it. Perhaps you could come live here and see it and experience it before you bash it or read something off some rediculous chart.
You have a nice day.
