Pakistan to fire on any US forces

[Baitman]

Its a fine line between chasing terrorists into someone elses sovereign land and becoming a terrorist yourself. Start doing this and you'll see even less support from pakistan and create sympathy for those terrorists you're trying to destroy.

And don't have a big cry if some foreign goverment sanctions similar acts on US terroritory because it doesn't like the US training some 'freedom fighters'. If you can't respect other peoples borders don't expect them to respect yours.

 

How about sending Intel and pictures to Pakistan and they can use it to capture the Taliban and it will help them win respect in the world comunity. What a blow to the terrorists if Pakistan caught Bin Laden.

[Elfie]

How about sending Intel and pictures to Pakistan and they can use it to capture the Taliban and it will help them win respect in the world comunity. What a blow to the terrorists if Pakistan caught Bin Laden.

That would be all fine and dandy....if the Pakistani Army was willing to go into those tribal areas and actually capable of winning a fight. They tried before and took to many casualties so they pulled out.

[B3YT]

Obvious to me that the American general populous have no idea about how hard it is to govern Pakistan. If you sent 10,000 troops into north Pakistan   they will find squat in there even after a year. No matter who was in charge it would take years to even get a third of the Taliban that are hiding out there. Afghanistan  fighters and Pakistan's government  are not "friends" at all  . In fact Pakistan has come under heavy terrorist attacks my a subsidiary of the Taliban several times this year.

If you American arm chair generals want to get them raise a private  army (goodness knows your well armed enough) YOU go flush them out. YOU go in there and face them . YOU go and run around in a few thousand square miles looking in thousand of miles of canyons. YOU try and find bands of 12  highly mobile men in that much land.

The British found out the hard way with India , Pakistan and Afghanistan how hard it is to find people. Same goes for Russia too in the 80's . Modern technology wont help you and just flooding over into another state wont help you either.   

IN fact America should give back Montana, Virginia and most of Pennsylvania back to lord Mountbatten in the UK as they were seized in an illegal manner during the American war of independence . 

[Shifty]

IN fact America should give back Montana, Virginia and most of Pennsylvania back to lord Mountbatten in the UK as they were seized in an illegal manner during the American war of independence . 

It pays to be the winner.

[Elfie]

I believe that crossing the border is only occurring if we are directly in pursuit of Taliban or Al-Qaeada personnel.

From what I read we are not conducting cross border search and destroy missions.

[Chalenge]

IN fact America should give back Montana, Virginia and most of Pennsylvania back to lord Mountbatten in the UK as they were seized in an illegal manner during the American war of independence . 

You were doing real good until that bit of horse squeeze made you sound like a moonbat. 

[B3YT]

It pays to be the winner.

I was just having a joke with that line.  and i should have said AFTER.
 now you see it was only AFTER hostilities had ended with Britain did the land get taken from the earl of Sussex. ergo the US  actually broke the peace treaty that had been agreed . The government at that time thought it would be best to be a good loser and let it lie .
Mind you when the US government asked the newest earl if they could have the land he owned next to the US embassy he said : "Yes on one condition ; that you hand back the land that is rightfully mine."

The US state department were going to agree until they saw the full extent of the land involved (he had the original deeds) . Needless to say they decided that the land they already had at the embassy would be just fine.

Bear in mind please that my previous posts were not aimed at US service men.  

[kamilyun]

Jebus.  How many muslim countries do we need to control to win the war on terror?  You can't destroy their will to fight.  They will always fight.  

They derive their will to fight from being beaten down.  Look, look.  We're being oppressed!  Go blow yourself up and get into a higher level of heaven!

How about we just keep all the little squealing turds out of our country?  Call it discrimination or whatever.  Easier to figure out where the turds are in your own yard than finding turds in your neighbor's yard.

[Shifty]

I was just having a joke with that line.  and i should have said AFTER.
 now you see it was only AFTER hostilities had ended with Britain did the land get taken from the earl of Sussex. ergo the US  actually broke the peace treaty that had been agreed . The government at that time thought it would be best to be a good loser and let it lie .
Mind you when the US government asked the newest earl if they could have the land he owned next to the US embassy he said : "Yes on one condition ; that you hand back the land that is rightfully mine."

The US state department were going to agree until they saw the full extent of the land involved (he had the original deeds) . Needless to say they decided that the land they already had at the embassy would be just fine.

Bear in mind please that my previous posts were not aimed at US service men.  

It was intended as humor bud.
<S>

[B3YT]

when I read the story in the news paper I laughed for a whole 2 hours after.   

[Chalenge]

Jebus.  How many muslim countries do we need to control to win the war on terror?  

How many muslim countries are there again? 

[Dowding]

And the rabid islamo-phobia raises it's head yet again.

And Skernsk - the US didn't hand Afghanistan over to NATO. British troops were in from day 1.

[Vulcan]

The attacks into Cambodia and Laos were very limited in number and caused such a huge international uproar that they were discontinued. For the most part, the Viet Cong and NVA forces were left alone in their sanctuaries in Cambodia and Laos.

As far as the part in bold.....umm....riiiiiight. 

Are you saying you believetheres never been foreign government sponsored attacks against the US?0

[Vulcan]

respecting the sovereignty of pakistan is not an issue. pakistan is through incompetence or complicity(doesn't matter which) harbouring enemies of the the united states and the rest of the western world in general.

And what did the US do about AQ cells operating WITHIN the USA pre-911?

I wouldn't be throwing stones in glasshouses if I were the US.

[Rich46yo]

How about sending Intel and pictures to Pakistan and they can use it to capture the Taliban and it will help them win respect in the world community. What a blow to the terrorists if Pakistan caught Bin Laden.

Gee another military expert that thinks you can find individual people, in huge, wild, mountainous regions, using satellite photos.

And even if we had this magical technology what makes you think the Pakistanis would use it? Even more so, what makes you think they would mount a large military campaign to find the guy? They really dont want to find him. They really dont want to mess with the tribes in these regions. And plenty in the Paki Intel community side with them anyway. Dont forget, Pakistani Intelligence created the Taliban.

Pakistan's army isn't exactly NATO standard anyways. They simply aren't capable of mounting, and sustaining, offensive operations in these regions. Even if they wanted to, which they dont. They have tried before and gotten their butts kicked.

Catching Bin Laden is almost irrelevant at this point anyways. He has always been nothing more then a figurehead , and fainancier, for a militant religious movement intent on destroying the non-Muslim world. None of thats going to change even if we do catch him. The fact is this movement has a large presence in that TO either thru active participation, financing, or just plain sympathy/support in both the ME and EA TO. Most of all in Pakistan itself, all the way from common citizens, up to their higher levels of its Intel/military community.