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Offline Krusty

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262 nerfed?
« on: October 02, 2008, 10:10:48 AM »
So, instead of reworking the G and G-spikes in the 262 like I was hoping, the new patch simply reduces the elevator effectiveness.

So, instead of fixing the issue, they simply remove your options of ever creating that issue. I could not get the wings to snap off in a 550+mph vertical dive with full stick back deflection. I could barely get the frame to stress. I blacked out a lot more but frankly the end result is the elevators are half as effective as they were before.

This de-fangs the 262 in fights. One of (okay let's admit THE ONLY) way a 262 can get kills in a furball with other planes is to pull hard lead deflection on a target while mushing through an accelerated stall (like a P-38 does, you know?) and then ease up off the stick and see if you hit the guy or not, reposition for another attack and repeat.

Now it cannot do that. Now it doesn't have the elevator to do that.


It's been nerfed.

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Re: 262 nerfed?
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2008, 10:12:29 AM »
ZOMG the 262 lost its man hood!

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Re: 262 nerfed?
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2008, 10:20:27 AM »
And I thought it was just a graphics change. That really sucks. It's only good for buff hunting if that's the case. I haven't been in one since the update. Is it really that noticeable?
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Re: 262 nerfed?
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2008, 10:45:03 AM »
BS Meter alert.

At the speeds where you could perform an accelerated stall in the 262, no changes have been made.


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Re: 262 nerfed?
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2008, 10:51:11 AM »
BS Meter alert.

At the speeds where you could perform an accelerated stall in the 262, no changes have been made.


HiTech

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Re: 262 nerfed?
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2008, 10:53:13 AM »
BS Meter alert.

At the speeds where you could perform an accelerated stall in the 262, no changes have been made.


HiTech

but hitech,   he has like 11,598 more post than you do...he is in the KNOW........... :devil
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Re: 262 nerfed?
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2008, 10:58:33 AM »
I LIKE TURTLES!!!!!!!!! :aok
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Re: 262 nerfed?
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2008, 11:00:09 AM »
I'm specifically talking about a range from ... say... 200 to 350mph. Where you're in a furball but not really slowing down to stall out. You have a target, he's about to break away from you. You can't follow the target, but you can pull hard on the stick, get your nose into his flight path, lob some 30mm, and land hits. Now you can't do that "nose skid" (whatever the term for it is).

Accelerated stall may not be the proper term. It's that mush-thing that the P-38 also does where you can pitch the nose up and still maintain your previous direction momentarily as you skid along your previous path.

I was not able to do this against the offline drones last night. Tried a number of times. Climbed to 15k and dove vertically straight down, and could not rip the wingtips of either. Could not get past 6Gs on the meter, it seemed.

Not stating things as clearly as I wanted to, yes. BS? No. Definitely can feel a difference trying to take potshots at drones and definitely feel a difference at top-speed high-Gs (although the latter isn't really going to affect ability to get kills like the former will)

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Re: 262 nerfed?
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2008, 11:20:18 AM »

I'm specifically talking about a range from ... say... 200 to 350mph. Where you're in a furball but not really slowing down to stall out. You have a target, he's about to break away from you. You can't follow the target, but you can pull hard on the stick, get your nose into his flight path, lob some 30mm, and land hits. Now you can't do that "nose skid" (whatever the term for it is).

Accelerated stall may not be the proper term. It's that mush-thing that the P-38 also does where you can pitch the nose up and still maintain your previous direction momentarily as you skid along your previous path.

I was not able to do this against the offline drones last night. Tried a number of times. Climbed to 15k and dove vertically straight down, and could not rip the wingtips of either. Could not get past 6Gs on the meter, it seemed.

Not stating things as clearly as I wanted to, yes. BS? No. Definitely can feel a difference trying to take potshots at drones and definitely feel a difference at top-speed high-Gs (although the latter isn't really going to affect ability to get kills like the former will)

Bigger BS Meter alert I would say in the order of 85 KRUSTYs.

Nothing has changed below 320 MPH, and at that speed you will be in a black out before you could stall the plane. So as my original post said, Nothing has changed in the range where you could perform an Accelerated Stall.


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Re: 262 nerfed?
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2008, 11:22:58 AM »
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Bigger BS Meter alert I would say in the order of 85 KRUSTYs.
Hitech *Sniff* that is about the best comment I read on this BBS in many moons  :salute

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Re: 262 nerfed?
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2008, 11:42:54 AM »
BS meter  :aok  :rofl

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Re: 262 nerfed?
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2008, 11:43:09 AM »
Bigger BS Meter alert I would say in the order of 85 KRUSTYs.

BS is now officially measured in the Krusty scale!

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Re: 262 nerfed?
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2008, 11:55:18 AM »
Babies often bang their little heads until they are unconscious.  :rolleyes:

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Re: 262 nerfed?
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2008, 11:58:29 AM »
I'm specifically talking about a range from ... say... 200 to 350mph. Where you're in a furball but not really slowing down to stall out. You have a target, he's about to break away from you. You can't follow the target, but you can pull hard on the stick, get your nose into his flight path, lob some 30mm, and land hits. Now you can't do that "nose skid" (whatever the term for it is).

Accelerated stall may not be the proper term. It's that mush-thing that the P-38 also does where you can pitch the nose up and still maintain your previous direction momentarily as you skid along your previous path.

I was not able to do this against the offline drones last night. Tried a number of times. Climbed to 15k and dove vertically straight down, and could not rip the wingtips of either. Could not get past 6Gs on the meter, it seemed.

Not stating things as clearly as I wanted to, yes. BS? No. Definitely can feel a difference trying to take potshots at drones and definitely feel a difference at top-speed high-Gs (although the latter isn't really going to affect ability to get kills like the former will)

Krusty, since we got a new update/patch did you by chance considered recalibrating and checking your scaling? to see if it may have went screwy on ya?

just a thought.........
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Re: 262 nerfed?
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2008, 03:10:24 PM »
/sarcasm on
Cmon krusty you gonna take that. :furious :furious.
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