Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...

[Cobra516]

35k is redicioulous for a mustang. and is not affordable for the masses. 20-25k would be more in line.

and don't forget..this is comming from a mustang lover dude.........

i make a decent living, and can't pay 35k for one. actually, if i could, i wouldn't. that's territory for a LSC type of car there.

Well the Cobra wasn't targeted toward the "masses" - that's the job of the V6 Mustang and GT.  $35k is a very good price for the performance potential.

[superpug1]

the new Cobalt SS is track attack monster. 260hp, 260 ft lbs available at only 2000 rpm.  only downside is the interior quality

[moot]

And it's front wheel drive.

[DiabloTX]

...and it's a Cobalt.  But, hey, if that's your thing, go for it.

I just am not happy without a V8 out under the hood.  For a long time I fooled myself with a V6 but there's just no comparison.

[Xasthur]

And it's front wheel drive.

That's a deal breaker right there.

I hate driving FWD cars.

[moot]

I wonder if we'll ever have a market that mfg's see as profitable enough for simple, lightweight front engined, rear wheel drive sports cars under 30-25k$.

[sluggish]

They've invested a lot of money and energy convincing us that fwd is better.

[moot]

In an economical mass production idiot-driver proof way, it is better. But such an FR sports car would probably be at least as popular as the current fwd cars, in the 20-30k segment.  Even below that.. 16-25k or so. No fat, no frills. I doubt it would be very hard to make it a lot faster than the bloated fwd machines we get now.

[superpug1]

I wonder if we'll ever have a market that mfg's see as profitable enough for simple, lightweight front engined, rear wheel drive sports cars under 30-25k$.

Miata, RX7, Solstice, Sky

[DiabloTX]

FWD cars with bigassed spoilers on the back is teh hawt!

[clerick]

One word...

Quattro!

[moot]

Miata's too small and anemic, rx7 is gone and rx8 I guess sort of qualifies.. Solstice I've heard too little good comments for, and I've never heard of the Sky..  The RX7 was exactly what I'm talking about, though.  The RX8 is too loaded with unnecessary stuff.

[eagl]

And it's front wheel drive.

Amen.  Deal breaker for me.

[Bronk]

In an economical mass production idiot-driver proof way, it is better. But such an FR sports car would probably be at least as popular as the current fwd cars, in the 20-30k segment.  Even below that.. 16-25k or so. No fat, no frills. I doubt it would be very hard to make it a lot faster than the bloated fwd machines we get now.

See my post about the LX mustangs of the mid to late 90s. You could get one with no power options no air no nothing. I'm talking stripped with your choice of gearing for under 10k. That IMHO was the last gasp of the affordable street fighter.  Every new pseudo muscle car now is just too heavy, over optioned and over priced.

[DiabloTX]

See my post about the LX mustangs of the mid to late 90s. You could get one with no power options no air no nothing. I'm talking stripped with your choice of gearing for under 10k. That IMHO was the last gasp of the affordable street fighter.  Every new pseudo muscle car now is just too heavy, over optioned and over priced.

Just like the 1LE Camaros & Firebirds.