Please Explain.......

[Lusche]

Very nice Murdr.

How is 28.5 factored, this may be where my numbers are not matching,,,,
 
Example 1. Bishops   178   127        0        28.5%    0.0
               Knights   192   139        0        30.7%     0.0
               Rooks     255    185       0        40.8%     3.7

"28.5 represent the % of the total number of players"      What column of numbers are you using to get the total to equal the 28.5%?

First collumn, "Cnt". 178 players out of 625 total in that arena (178+192+255).

[TequilaChaser]

Very nice Murdr.

How is 28.5 factored, this may be where my numbers are not matching,,,,
 
Example 1. Bishops   178   127        0        28.5%    0.0
               Knights   192   139        0        30.7%     0.0
               Rooks     255    185       0        40.8%     3.7

"28.5 represent the % of the total number of players"      What column of numbers are you using to get the total to equal the 28.5%?

30.7% + 40.8% = 71.5%

28.5% + 71.5% = 100%

meaning he is using both 30.7% & 40.8%   or as Lusche posted above he is using all Bishops, Rooks and Knights combined CNT then divide

[Murdr]

Very nice Murdr.

How is 28.5 factored, this may be where my numbers are not matching,,,,
 
Example 1. Bishops   178   127        0        28.5%    0.0
               Knights   192   139        0        30.7%     0.0
               Rooks     255    185       0        40.8%     3.7

"28.5 represent the % of the total number of players"      What column of numbers are you using to get the total to equal the 28.5%?

178+192+255=625  (total arena roster)

178 divided by 625 = .2848 = 28.5% (percent that are bishops)

[Dadsguns]

Country Balancer

Seems as though this is more sensitive to smaller arena's vice the larger ones using these two examples.  Would that be correct?

[Lusche]

Country Balancer

Seems as though this is more sensitive to smaller arena's vice the larger ones using these two examples.  Would that be correct?

In some ways yes, as a whole squad loggin in or off could of course make a bigger impact on ENY # on a small arena. But of course it's because it's impact on gameplay is also much bigger in a small arena. Small arenas tend to have bigger ENY fluctations but thats a result of getting unbalanced numbers easier. A 12 player squad loggin in on TT won't change anything. A 10 player squad deciding to log in into EW with a total population of maybe 15 players... ouch!

BTW, there's a minimum population an arena must have before ENY limit kicks in. Unfortunately I can't tell any exact number right now.

[Murdr]

Seems as though this is more sensitive to smaller arena's vice the larger ones using these two examples.  Would that be correct?

Yes.  But there is also a minimum roster threshhold that an arena must reach before the Country Balancer becomes active.  Last I knew of, if the total roster is less than 200 people, Country Balancer is inactive.

[Dadsguns]

Yes.  But there is also a minimum roster threshhold that an arena must reach before the Country Balancer becomes active.  Last I knew of, if the total roster is less than 200 people, Country Balancer is inactive.

It must be lower than that, there were 177 in the other example.

[PFactorDave]

It must be lower than that, there were 177 in the other example.

Ya, consider when a map resets and for the first few minutes there aren't very many players in the arena, but the ENY can max out for one side. 

[Murdr]

Rgr that.  It started without a minimum.  Then a 140 theshold was added.  Then it was changed to 200.  After that if there was an announcement of a change, I missed it.  Though sometimes things get changed when new versions come out and nobody, not even HTC notices it 

[Dadsguns]

Type these numbers onto a spreadsheet in this order beginning in cell A1 and ending in cell H1:

8   43   69   85   0   3.7   8.4   13.5

Then type this formula:

=TREND(A1:D1,E1:H1,29)

This will give you the % difference between the subject country and the lowest populated country at ENY 29.  You can replace the number 29 in the formula with any other number that you want the approximate percent difference on for that ENY.

If you reverse the formula to:

=TREND(E1:H1,A1:D1,100)

You can now approximate the ENY at any percentage difference by changing the number 100 to any percent difference you want.

You can also graph this which will give you all the information you are looking for.

Hope this helps.

Trend analysis is your friend.

What do the numbers represent to the left of zero?
8   43   69   85   0


Are you saying that the country balancer will increase as described below in these incriments up to 29?  3.7   8.4   13.5

If so, what would be the missing values between 13.5 and 29?
3.7   8.4   13.5   ??.?      ??.?     ??.?     29

[Kitt18]

Simply put. Understanding how the ENY is calc'd, is like trying to understand why Vista was created.


Just UP what you can, when you can. Score some kills, and have as much fun as possible.

[DCCBOSS]

Yes.  But there is also a minimum roster threshhold that an arena must reach before the Country Balancer becomes active.  Last I knew of, if the total roster is less than 200 people, Country Balancer is inactive.

I think it is the opposite as total number of players decrease all the way down to bottom number of players (Bish-7 Rook-2 and Knight-3 the ENY balancer is active and much more sensitive to difference in player numbers and of course when the volume of players increase across the three countries such as was seen in the example the opposite is true.

[BaldEagl]

What do the numbers represent to the left of zero?
8   43   69   85   0


Are you saying that the country balancer will increase as described below in these incriments up to 29?  3.7   8.4   13.5

If so, what would be the missing values between 13.5 and 29?
3.7   8.4   13.5   ??.?      ??.?     ??.?     29

Those were the numbers from the example.  The first 4 numbers were the % difference in population to the lowest country and the last 4 numbers were the resulting ENY.

The formula simply plots these in a straight line and lets you calculate the value of one of these given a set value for the other.

[Murdr]

I think it is the opposite

Umm, I agreed that it is more sensitive to low numbers.

[BaldEagl]

Umm, I agreed that it is more sensitive to low numbers.

It is.

If the entire arena had 9 people in it, one more person logging in would represent 10% of the population.  If it was evenly split at 3-3-3 before that person joined, his country would now have a 33% population advantage over the other two countries.

If the entire arena population was 99 then the next person joining would only represent 1% of the population.  If, again, there was an even split at 33-33-33, then the person joining would give his country a 3% edge in population over the other two countries.

I just quoted you to jump in and illustrate.