Perk Planes...how do you feel about them?

[Replicant]

I don't mind the odd one or two perk planes but what will bother me is if we get quite a selection of perk planes because I feel that HTC time should be aiming at providing everyone with new planes and not just perks for the 'best pilots'.  If they are working on perk planes then it means they are not working on the 'normal' planes... I would really love to see an early plane set, Hurricane, 109E, P40 etc... and also a more varied rotated terrain.

Just my 2 pence worth.

Nexx

[Citabria]

I will most likely use unperk planes even after perk planes come out...

until I get clobbered by a hord of perk planes or f4u1cs.

then I will grab an f4u4c and run up a rediculous 7-10kill/sortie repeatedly... blasting chogs to bits until I get bored of the total impunity in dogfights the airplane offers. then I will go fly the good old P-38 and blow up perk dweebs that are AFK  

[StSanta]

Blah. I vehemently resist the perk idea.

There you are flying around in an arena that is relatively well balanced. In comes an über plane and ruins yer flight.

Due to the number of players, there'll always be some überplanes around.

I don't think I'll even use my perk points.



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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"

[hitech]

1. You will only loose perk points when you die in a perk plane. Not sure how ditches and bails will effect the point's possibly a percentage of the planes value.

2. k/d will not be used to award point's it will be done more along the lines of fly more and kill more or damage more get more points. Each missions points will be modified by your missions outcome. And each kills points will be modified by plane type modifiers. I.E. worse plane kills better plane = more points than Visa versa.


I'm viewing the time frame of getting enof points to get a perk plane in the realm of 3 to 4 weeks in playing time.

Perk points are life time points, and will not reset with tours.

Now put you self in the position that you just spent 4 weeks getting enof points to go fly a 262. And if you die in that 262 it will take another 4 weeks to get enof points to fly it again. Do you think you will use it in a furball? or would you be more likely to take it out on occasion to show off your trophy?

Now put yourself in the roll of being attacked by a 262.

1st killing it will be worth more points than the standard planes.

2nd I can see people getting together and hunting that 262 just to spoil it's day.


We are also considering awarding points for to the hole country for war wins. This would require you be in that country for the last 24 hours.


We are also considering using the 1st tear, i.e. least inexpsensive planes , as a meens of side balancing, Enabling them for free to a side if they are to low on player counts.


HiTech

[Karnak]

Thanks for the clarification HiTech.

Given the amount I play, it would take me a LONG time to earn a perk.  Especialy considering my lack of success lately.  I can say with absolute certainty that I would NEVER select a Spitfire F.MkXIV, F.Mk21 or even a Seafire Mk47.  They are all too easy to kill.  I'm not good enough to have any confidence that I could fight in a Spit XIV and get back to base, there are already non-perk planes that can chase it down and kill it.  I might consider taking the Spitfire MkXIV if the P-51D, P-51B, P-47D-30, P-47D-25, Bf109G-10 and Fw190D-9 were all perks as well.  Barring that, I would always choose an Me262.  At least then I know I have a shot at not just dieing and losing 3-4 weeks of work.

Sisu
-Karnak

[This message has been edited by Karnak (edited 10-17-2000).]

[Cobra]

How do I feel about Perk Planes??.......GOOD if I have one  ....BAD if I don't.  

Cobra

[Maverick]

Having read HT's explanation I find I have no reason to change my opinion. I will not have a perk plane ever under this set of guidelines. I do not fly enough to "earn" it and can see only those who do fly quite a bit will have them. These are the same folks who have learned all the "game the game" ricks already. Giving them a plane that lets them exploit it even more unbalances game play further.

Yes doing the BnZ slashing attack and running after the first pass means you "should" have a higher k/d ratio. Having a plane capable of more than 100mph over the previous fastest planes means you can do this with impunity. Once an enemies radar (HQ) is down it will be impossible to track the perk to it's roost to get them on landing as was done in RL. With the lanc out now, losing your HQ is ridiculously easy. One can do the job. Particularly as the laser like accuracy of the space shuttle bomb drop is still in effect. How many are going to jump in their limited "perk" 262 and go buff hunting to protect the dar against the buff "turbo lasers"?

Perk planes are a solution in search of a problem.

Mav

[Ripsnort]

Mav:" I do not fly enough to "earn" it"

Perk points carry over from tour to tour, you will eventually earn one.

[Replicant]

he he...  thought of a 262 running low on fuel and being kilt by a 202 whilst on finals...  

Nexx

[Maverick]

 

Originally posted by Ripsnort:
Mav:" I do not fly enough to "earn" it"

Perk points carry over from tour to tour, you will eventually earn one.

Ripsnort,

Getting a perk plane every third or fourth tour is of no use to me. Having to fly lesser capable planes against those who fly very often and earn perk planes frequently will insure I won't get a perk plane. You will have to fly in MA to get one I imagine.

If my $30.00 isn't good enough to allow me to fly the same planes in the limited time I have to play then there isn't much reason to worry about using any of them or to be in MA.

I would request an arena devoid of any perk planes, or where everyone gets them as they wish. Either this is a game that is equal to everyone or it is totally out of balance.

Mav

[Sunchaser]

"Perk Planes"?
No.

What an egoists dream that concept is.

There is now little or no flight simming available in the main arena and having guys flying around in super planes will bury the remains.




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When did they put this thing in here and WTF is it for?

[Nath-BDP]

I like the perk plane idea because its kind of like an OORPG where the lesser skilled people or people who don't invest alot of the time in the game gain levels or experienced slower than those who do spend alot of time in the game.

The best players will rise while the losers will perish. ;P

[Maverick]

 

Originally posted by Nath-BDP:
I like the perk plane idea because its kind of like an OORPG where the lesser skilled people or people who don't invest alot of the time in the game gain levels or experienced slower than those who do spend alot of time in the game.

The best players will rise while the losers will perish. ;P

So you want to reward the best players for having the ability to spend considerable time in the game. Nice. Now think how you would feel if you didn't have much time to spend in the game and had no chance against a more experianced player flying a plane you aren't allowed to fly. Kind of drops the enjoyment of the game a bit and encourages newbies to find another SIM / game.

Mav

[Karnak]

Maverick,
Nath-BDP is being facetious.

Sisu
-Karnak

[StSanta]

Hm, thanks for the explanation HT. Looks like there won't always be 1 or 2 überplanes on every flight then. Good news  

Heheheh I can already imagine: "NOOOOO I DISCOED JUST AS I HAD MY PERK PLANE!"

Heheheh, that will RULE  .

Good idea about balancing out the force through allowing perk planes. I for one won't fight outnumbered forces if that happens  .

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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"