LaGG /La/Yak Real life performance data?

[Gabriel]

Anyone know where these might be floating around on the internet?

Seem hard to track down,,,

edit - I should clarify, I mean in terms of airspeed charts, factory tests, etc

[Karnak]

Some of that stuff is still a state secret in Russia.

[BnZs]

Some of that stuff is still a state secret in Russia.

Which um, rather begs the question...whence comes the data for the game? Does HTC have an espionage branche? 

[Angus]

From the days of Air Warrior, the Yak was very much poorer than in AH. Wonder where the LA-5/7 data comes from.
Anyway, cannot all be too much of a secret, since some of those are flyable on Western museum ground, - at least I have seen a Yak-3 in the air and heard comments about it. (Duxford)

[Gabriel]

Some of that stuff is still a state secret in Russia.

How inconsiderate of them.

Maybe Oleg has a source in the archives somewhere - probably a good idea to check the IL2 forums,

re; the Yak 3Ms out there flying, as far as I know they use Allison V 1710s for their powerplants, so not much data from them being of use I think,

[DarkglamJG52]

Maybe Oleg has a source in the archives somewhere - probably a good idea to check the IL2 forums,

Maybe in his patriotic imagination.

[-aper-]

You can get  "State Secret" information here (32Mb pdf, 114 pages)
http://rapidshare.com/files/197153284/Fighters_VVS_RKKA_1930-45.pdf.html

[Bruv119]

at least I have seen a Yak-3 in the air and heard comments about it. (Duxford)

Trikky was foaming at the mouth when it went up,   Needless to say, it is a fantastic (mass produced and fought) aircraft and needs to be added to AH 

[chewie86]

You can get  "State Secret" information here (32Mb pdf, 114 pages)
http://rapidshare.com/files/197153284/Fighters_VVS_RKKA_1930-45.pdf.html

can anybody translate it?

some good comparisons with the 109 in the final pages

[Gabriel]

You can get  "State Secret" information here (32Mb pdf, 114 pages)
http://rapidshare.com/files/197153284/Fighters_VVS_RKKA_1930-45.pdf.html

Many thanks,   

can anybody translate it?

All of it 

If you specify which, I could do a very rough job having taken some Russian coursework, however I feel as though some of our East European friends would do better

[Stoney]

re; the Yak 3Ms out there flying, as far as I know they use Allison V 1710s for their powerplants, so not much data from them being of use I think,

The only one I've ever seen has a R-2800 bolted to the front, so again, probably not a great example, although we could argue whether or not it was an improvement

[Gabriel]

The only one I've ever seen has a R-2800 bolted to the front, so again, probably not a great example, although we could argue whether or not it was an improvement

This is the -3M





There are some Yaks out there that are radials adapted from the -11 or -3us,,,,but I don't consider those 'real'  , this is  one with the R-2800 I think,





 

[Die Hard]

The Yak-3U had the same engine as the La-7, though I think it was too late to see action in WWII.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-byLVcXd7eg


Fast bugger!

[Puck]

can anybody translate it?

some good comparisons with the 109 in the final pages

Yes.  Anything I can't handle SWMBO can (she's a native Russian speaker).

Don't hold your breath, though 

[Krusty]

Even "official" documents are suspect when they come from a nation that rewrites history to show itself in a better light.

Many claims and specs from VVS aircraft have been exaggerated before, because they were either trying to save their skin or make other folks believe the Soviet Union was the greatest nation on Earth.

More than likely the German test of captured VVs planes or British/US comparisons will yield FAR better and more accurate statistics than what the VVS puts out, state secret or not.