30mm damage

[Anaxogoras]

I have never had it happen with 30mm but I have noticed especially in the 109 series that it takes a lot of 20mm rounds to take an aircraft out.

Are you flying a version with 7mm cowl guns?  The firepower upgrade from the G-2 to the G-6 and G-14 is very noticeable.

[Cajunn]

Are you flying a version with 7mm cowl guns?  The firepower upgrade from the G-2 to the G-6 and G-14 is very noticeable.

  F4, But I fly the K4 98% of the time.

[Anaxogoras]

Give the G-14 (20mm) or even the G-6 a try.  You'll be surprised at their lethality compared to the F4/G2.

Let's return to the discussion of the nerfed Mk 108.

[BlauK]

Some fighters were hit by 88mm Flak shells and they flew home.

Wow...    Any references or links?

AFAIK, 88:s could kill a tank with a direct hit. I am kinda surprised how any plane could survive an 88 shell hit.
Or did you mean they were hit by its splinters or by a dud?

[mechanic]

I dont know exactly where I saw it but there was some real life film of a P47 with a twisted and torn hole in it's tail section the size of a melon. The pilot who just landed it is standing by it holding his hand out, trying to keep it steady but it is shaking and he has a weak smile. I thought he was hit by 88mm and survived, perhaps I was wrong. Maybe it was a dud that passed right through the tail? I cannot find this footage right now. I bet widewing or guppy or someone knows which picture/film im talking about.

 

[BlauK]

cc... at least some B-17:s sometimes rtbd with incredibly heavy damage, but dont know if any of those were direct 88 hits either.

[mechanic]

Ok, I surrender the 88m point, happily! As to 30mm, I think it is a problem with all ammunition, that sometimes a round will flash a hit sprite and yet do no damage. We only notice it with 30mm as we expect a one-hit-kill every time.  Is it not fair just to call this virtual 'luck'? I would say if every single 30mm hit meant a kill then it would be less realistic.

[grizz441]

Ok, I surrender the 88m point, happily! As to 30mm, I think it is a problem with all ammunition, that sometimes a round will flash a hit sprite and yet do no damage. We only notice it with 30mm as we expect a one-hit-kill every time.  Is it not fair just to call this virtual 'luck'? I would say if every single 30mm hit meant a kill then it would be less realistic.

How is 'virtual luck' defined in programming code?  It's not generally intended to be a whine if a 30mm doesn't cause a kill but more so an inquiry as to why the rules are changing.  How can a 30mm to the wing root take the wing off 90% of the time but cause only a fuel leak the other 10% of the time? 

[mechanic]

who said anything about code? Its an unfortunate occurance that online games are not 100% reliable in showing both people the same thing. That's the virtual luck element. In the UK at ping 160 it effects us more than someone in Texas. I think that, anyhow.. again..i'm usual wrong.

[grizz441]

who said anything about code? Its an unfortunate occurance that online games are not 100% reliable in showing both people the same thing. That's the virtual luck element. In the UK at ping 160 it effects us more than someone in Texas. I think that, anyhow.. again..i'm usual wrong.

This is what doesn't make sense.  How can 'ping' affect a registered tater hit?

I can see a tater hit doing no damage and not registering due to lag and calling it an online mystery but how can a tater register and only cause such minimal damage.  THAT is the real mystery.

[TonyJoey]

Richard Candelaria's P-51 took a hit from a 262, only suffering a big hole in his wing?

[grizz441]

Richard Candelaria's P-51 took a hit from a 262, only suffering a big hole in his wing?

I suppose it's possible that tater damage is programmed to deal fatal damage X % of the time and only a certain degree of damage a smaller % of the time to deal with RL luck.  It's all speculation though until HiTech comments on this.

[mechanic]

This is what doesn't make sense.  How can 'ping' affect a registered tater hit?

I can see a tater hit doing no damage and not registering due to lag and calling it an online mystery but how can a tater register and only cause such minimal damage.  THAT is the real mystery.

I dont know anything about it to comment beyond my speculation. I do however expect there are few/no dud tater hits in offline missions.

[Cajunn]

was it or not, it had the color of a tator..........

http://www.mediafire.com/?zw2zcnklwmz

[Tec]

Not a tater.