"SEXTING" PLEASE READ PARENTS

[Elfie]

in the early days kids would go find their dads porn collection, now you find whatever you want on the internet

My dad didn't have a porn collection. With 8 kids to feed he couldn't afford one.

[Elfie]

I think some of you guys are a little too strict, theres watching out for your kids and then theres spying. I think an internet nanny is fine, as long as it's blocking porn sites. You don't need to see their every key stroke, let them be kids and gossip with their friends, because as soon as they find out how much you know about what they're doing on the computer they're going to get really upset.

An internet nanny will not keep the sexual predators away from her.

[CAVPFCDD]

An internet nanny will not keep the sexual predators away from her.

ok, but just do what my parents did, works in public and via the internet, "don't talk to strangers" 

simple yet effective. Make sure if she has a facebook or myspace that she has all the privacy settings on and what not, you she should be fine.

Teach that it's not good if someone online is suggesting to "meet up". She needs to learn at some point about all the sickos out there, she'll be better off for it.

[Elfie]

ok, but just do what my parents did, works in public and via the internet, "don't talk to strangers" 

simple yet effective. Make sure if she has a facebook or myspace that she has all the privacy settings on and what not, you she should be fine.

Teach that it's not good if someone online is suggesting to "meet up". She needs to learn at some point about all the sickos out there, she'll be better off for it.

We talk to her about all the sickos out there, and she doesn't get to have Myspace/Facebook pages just yet.

[moot]

You'll lose everytime, trying to protect vs. making a kid autonomous.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

An internet nanny will not keep the sexual predators away from her.

Heh this is something YOU should think about. She should get knowledge about stuff before it's too late, human anatomy, birth control, std etc. Watching nude photos is 100% harmless - someone out there may offer a live performance and if she never saw a naked man the temptation may be very very large indeed. It's obvious that she's interested anyway - she wouldn't have searched otherwise.

My boy is 8 years old and I accidentally found a sex site in history. I confronted him about that and he denied everything. Turns out his friend (same age) has been watching porn twice already using our computers.

When I was 8 there was no internet. So a good way to find it was to 'harvest' paper recycling bins in the paper collection room. Surefire way to find some smut and oh boy was it exciting to sneak down there and browse through the paper packs in secret! I wish I could have that kind of excitement again but sadly feelings dull down when you get old and probably only drugs could give that strong sensations again.

Where there's a will there's a way.

If she's already 14 and you're still trying to protect her from her natural development and hormonal activity you're in denial and dragging 3-4 years late already. I still remember what girls were doing at 14 when I was young - and just for a hint they were not just looking at pictures.  

[Elfie]

Heh this is something YOU should think about. She should get knowledge about stuff before it's too late, human anatomy, birth control, std etc

I guess maybe YOU should learn to read eh?

Yes she does know what a *wang* looks like. She knows how babies are made, she knows how her reproductive system works and she knows how a male's reproductive system works.

How do I know this? Because first my wife and I sat down and discussed how we would go about telling her about the birds and the bees. My wife sat down with her with an illustrated book that we picked out. I wasn't involved in that aspect because we didn't want her feeling embarrassed in any way.

If she's already 14 and you're still trying to protect her from her natural development and hormonal activity you're in denial and dragging 3-4 years late already. I still remember what girls were doing at 14 when I was young - and just for a hint they were not just looking at pictures.

At 14 kids are not ready for the emotional aspects of a sexual relationship. Oh, they think are with encouragement from idiots such as yourself.

Seriously, what are YOU thinking by not protecting YOUR computer so 8 year old kids can't have access to porn? Here in the States that would get YOU arrested.

[moot]

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[mechanic]

At 14 kids are not ready for the emotional aspects of a sexual relationship. Oh, they think are with encouragement from idiots such as yourself.

Seriously, what are YOU thinking by not protecting YOUR computer so 8 year old kids can't have access to porn? Here in the States that would get YOU arrested.

No offence intended Elfie, most people in Britain consider under-age sexual activity and mild pornography to be alot less harmfulll than firearms.  I think most people are forgetting that a few hundred years ago girls would be married off and probably pregnant by the age of 14.

As to your parenting skills? Thats up to you sir, I'm not commenting on that at all, just the fact that you say I could be arrested for letting my kids look at some boobs.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

I guess maybe YOU should learn to read eh?

At 14 kids are not ready for the emotional aspects of a sexual relationship. Oh, they think are with encouragement from idiots such as yourself.

Seriously, what are YOU thinking by not protecting YOUR computer so 8 year old kids can't have access to porn? Here in the States that would get YOU arrested.

With our privacy laws you'd be in court in a flash for the keylogger so I guess we're even. 

And I did set safe search options to Google at least. And that friend of my kid knew exactly what to type to Google to find the *ahem* hardcore site before that.

This is how it happens - no matter how you try to keep them in the dark the word of the street goes around faster. I remember the trade that we had on pron VHS back in the days - they were illegal to watch but strangely enough every teenager had a bunch of them despite you couldn't buy them, rent them.. you get the picture. Now the word of mouth goes with websites and poor ones with locked internets get them via usb thumbs, dvd-roms, ipod, iphone, nokia, archos you name it they have it.

Fighting a losing fight against juvenile hormones.

Oh leme guess you tap down your kid when he/she enters home, check her memory sticks / portable harddrives / dvd's / phone for plain or hidden partitions or encrypted hidden partitions.. hmm.. gets challenging.

If your kid wants to bypass your keylogger all he/she has to do is to borrow a cd from a friend, boot into linux livecd and kaboom world of pr0n is instantly open again.. 

[Elfie]

My daughter doesn't have her own phone, she doesn't have her own laptop to take to school the computer she does use isn't hers. So no, I don't need to check everything she is carrying when she gets home.

As far as privacy laws go, I don't need the government telling me what I can/can't do to protect my own children. I am perfectly capable of making those decisions myself.

[Talon07]

Hmmmm I've been watching this thread with interest and feel it's time for my small input.
Elfie I think the keylogger may be a bit much. You're hearts in the right place for trying to protect your daughter but maybe there's a more trusting way to go about it. From what I know there'd be 3 ways sexual predators would try and talk to girls. One would be online chat rooms and games. These aren't very difficult to notice and easy to check. The second would be facebook/myspace and even those have various privacy features and the ability to not accept people as friends. The 3rd would be msn or similar chat service again education would seem better than ironfist keylogging. As a teenager I think she's entitled to at least a bit of privacy to talk about stuff with her friends. A question for you. If she was talking to her friends about sex over something like msn and you caught it with the keylogger would you
A. Read it all and ask her why she's talking about it with her friends instead of her family
B. Read it and if it's harmless allow her to continue to do it but keep checking the keylogger.
C. Read it see that she's talking about sex with her friend (you could check if it was her friend) and allow her to do it with checking.
Just a question. There are nicer ways to enforce the same principles than with an ironfist. They still get the job done and your daughter would be more understanding.
I understand that I don't know or you daughter. This is just based on what I've read.
Kind regards FBClaw

[SKYGUNS]

I run a keylogger, I know every keystroke my 14 yr old daughter makes on the computer. I know every single website she goes to. I know who she emails.

I use this one: (except I paid for the more comprehensive version)

http://www.download.com/Free-KGB-Key-Logger/3000-2162_4-10357898.html

I busted her one time after she had googled for *naked boys*. She tried to deny it until I showed her the evidence, date...time.....screen shot....

She knows I use some sort of software to keep track of her activities but has no idea what it is or how to access it. We haven't had a single problem since.

  , Curious are we? girls will be girls boys will be boys...

[Xasthur]

But when they get into college, away from their parents they go wild.  It overwhelms them because it is not a situation they have ever had to handle due to their parents not letting the situation even exist.

This is a huge point.

[sluggish]

There is no need for all of this silliness.  Many here obviously don't trust their own parenting skills.  I don't monitor or block anything.  My kids are free to watch and listen to whatever they want.  If you instill the correct morals and values in your kids you don't need to.