Ki-84

[Anaxogoras]

I have the most recent version. Still wasn't worth the price.

$10?

If you can't fly the tbm then you don't have 4.08m.  Pm me if you want a link.

[Die Hard]

Tell me this then: Why do TWO Zero models that never saw combat rate an addition? This is a total cop-out. If they cared that little to do something properly then better they not do it at ALL and stick to their primary focus.

C1 is not making these models. They are made by 3rd parties, fans mostly. C1 only quality check them. And I think they can do pretty much what they like; after all it is their product.

[MiloMorai]

They "refuse" to add any new American planes because Boeing threatened to sue them if they didn't pay for using their "intellectual property". Instead they just stopped adding planes that Boeing now owns the rights to. I wonder if HTC has to pay Boeing for simulating the Pony?

Man are you ever wrong!!!

It was Northrop Grumman, not Boeing. Oh yes, the company is 1C, not C1.

[MiloMorai]

Several in fact, but none of them are Allied. The 110C-4b and all the radial engined 190's use 150 grade fuel (German C3).

Late war C3 had a rich mixture PN of pushing 140. This was equivalent to Allied 100/150PN fuel.

[moot]

How a game that has such a garbage FM can pass off as anything more than mediocre in someone's review, like Saxman's, is pretty nuts.  It's just crap wrapped in eye candy.  His review's just about spot on.

[Die Hard]

Man are you ever wrong!!!

It was Northrop Grumman, not Boeing. Oh yes, the company is 1C, not C1.

Lol whatever!   

Point stands, they got sued.

[1Boner]

Nope.  Less than 10 built.

Less than 10 built?

Never saw any action?

Where are you finding this information??

Please reveal your source!


(my 3rd  request for this info)

[Karnak]

Less than 10 built?

Never saw any action?

Where are you finding this information??

Please reveal your source!


(my 3rd  request for this info)

busa, a Japanese player who did research on the Ki-84 for HTC using Japanese language sources.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,262941.30.html

Hello, this is busa01.

About Ki84-1b
The number of production of Ki84-1b is misunderstood.
Those numbers of production were about 100 pcs slightly.
They were produced only at the Nakajima aviation Ota factory.
The manufacture number is after the Ota factory of No.3000.
About 2700pcs Ki84 was produced at the Ota factory.
That is, manufacture numbers are not consecutive numbers.
Ki84-1b carried out parallel production with Ki84-1a after the spring of 1945.
Therefore, there is few production.
And about 730pcs Ki84 was produced at the Utsunomiya factory.

And Ki84-1c was not mass-produced.

I want Ki84-1b to appear in AH.
But at present, I do not demand it of Pyro.
Because, the Japanese airplanes in AH has many correction problems.
It is one of the reasons many Japanese players left AH.
I want them to be solved.

I do not want it to develop into political diplomacy to add Ki84-1b.
But I think that it is very easy to add it as Perk plane.

Thank you for reading my poor English.

[Die Hard]

Doesn't he say 100 built?

[Karnak]

Doesn't he say 100 built?

That was the "b", four Ho-5 20mm, not the "c" with two 20mm and two 30mm cannons.

[1Boner]

busa, a Japanese player who did research on the Ki-84 for HTC using Japanese language sources.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,262941.30.html

Busa seems very well versed in the history of the Ki-84.

But I still don't see any references to fact that "less than 10" were built, and none saw any action.

Books and web sites seem to include the "C" model in with Lb and Ia and NEVER infer that the "C" was never used in combat.

Most references will include derivatives that never saw combat, such as the Ki-84N and the KI-116.

And while I'll agree that Busa SEEMS to know what he's talking about, he's just another player.

For all we know he could be misquoting the facts. Just because he says he's Japanese doesn't make him an expert in my eyes.

Soooo, I will ask again, where did you find the statements that "less than 10" were built, and "none saw any action" ??

[Die Hard]

That was the "b", four Ho-5 20mm, not the "c" with two 20mm and two 30mm cannons.

Ah, CC. However I could not see any reference to the 10 "c" models you mentioned?

[Karnak]

Every book or site I have seen puts the Ki-84-Ic production at less than 10 and no service.  Busa simply says that it wasn't mass produced.

If you have a source that says otherwise, please supply it.

[Die Hard]

Mass produced isn't a criteria. We have exotic planes like the Ta 152 and F4U1-C in the game.

[Karnak]

Mass produced isn't a criteria. We have exotic planes like the Ta 152 and F4U1-C in the game.

But they saw squadron service.  Please show that the Ki-84-Ic did as well.  Nothing I have ever found supports that.