Me 210/410

[morfiend]

Then again 6x20mm's sounds like fun,and IIRC they have around 1700 rounds of ammo.

[moot]

1700 is for the 7mm MG.. 250rpg and 350rpg for the 151/20 guns (so maybe ~1500 total for a 6x20mm), 500rpg for the MG131. 100 rpg for the 103 and 22 for the BK5.

[morfiend]

Yes moot,but I thought that it was 350x4 and 250x2  which would be 1900 rounds.

 Then again I may have miss read that. my grade 3 edumacation only goes so far.

[moot]

It could be like you remember.. I've only seen the numbers for the 4x20mm.

[Cthulhu]

As far as I can tell from Green's "Warplanes of the Third Reich" (a great tech reference, but mind-numbing to read), it's probably 350 rpg for the two upper MG 151's, and 250 rpg each for the four MG 151's in the bomb bay (Assuming two Waffen-behälter containers).

So 1700 rds of 20mm?

We need to send up a flare for Lusche

[morfiend]

CT, I thought the upper guns held 250 rds and the Waffen-behater had 350 rds.

 Either way it's a boatload of ammo,just what I need with my shooting abilities.

[Krusty]

On top of that it could also carry a 2x MG15120 gunpod under the belly, for 8x 20mm cannons.

[Gianlupo]

I'd like to see the 410 in the game. Please, HTC?

[Karnak]

Me410 should have a lot of armament options when it is added.  I wonder how many HTC can include and if there is a technical limitation to that?

[moot]

IIRC the 8x20 was a one-off field mod.  Another mod we could really use would be the gunner and equipment removed.
Karnak, I think some of the bombers' bomb loads are more numerous than the 410's configurations (or maybe not!)..

A1 "Schnellkampf": 2xMG17(1000rpg), 2x151/20(350rpg), Stuvi 5B sight. 1xSD1000 or 8xSC50(inside)+4xSC50(wings).
A1/U1: (reconnaissance, doubt we'll get this one): 2x151/20(350rpg), Revi C/12D sight.
A1/U2 "Auxiliary destroyer": 2xMG17(1000rpg), 2x151/20(350rpg), 2x151/20(200 or 230rpg), Revi C/12D sight.
A1/U4: 2xMG17(1000rpg), 2x151/20(350rpg), BK-5 (22rounds), Revi C/12D sight.
A2: 2x151/20(350rpg), 2xMK103(?) - Apparently this one was canceled.

B1 "Schnellkampf": 2xMG131(600rpg), 2x151/20(350rpg), Stuvi 5B sight.
B1/U4: 2x151/20(200 or 230rpg), BK5 (22 rounds).
B2 Destroyer: 2xMG131(600rpg), 2x151/20(350rpg), 2x151/20(200 or 230rpg), Revi 16B sight, 2x500kg. 
B2/U1: "standard loadout and:" 2x151/20(__), (same sight as B2 I guess?)
B2/U2/R2: 2x151/20(350rpg), 2xMK108..
B2/U2/R3: 2x151/20(350rpg), 2xMK103..
B2/U2/R5: 2x151/20(350rpg), 4x151/20..
B2/U3 Anti-shipping: "1 torpedo", "and a part of 30mm cannon in the weapons bay" (huh?)
B2/U4: BK5, 2x "30mm"  !
B3 Recon: 2x131 and 2x151/20(350rpg), Revi 16B.
B5 Torpedo bomber: 1xBT-Körper (bomb-torpedo missile) mounted on the port side of the fuselage, I guess because the bomb bay was occupied (guns?).
B6 Anti-shipping recon: some Fug200 radar ballast, 2xMG131, 2xMG151/20, and 2xMK103.  -  Apparently only experimental.
B models have option for 2x80gal drop tanks.

All models with 300rpg on the MG131 barbettes. There's optional rockets on the wings as well.
So yeah, that's a lot of options in the hangar..  Red one's kinda redundant with the 110G2, grey ones are recon versions which we probably can ignore since they add useless ballast.

The Stuvi gunsight takes up a lot of space:

Also note at least one glass partition is covered.

[Cthulhu]

IIRC the 8x20 was a one-off field mod.  Another mod we could really use would be the gunner and equipment removed.
Karnak, I think some of the bombers' bomb loads are more numerous than the 410's configurations..

A1 "Schnellkampf": 2xMG17(1000rpg), 2x151/20(350rpg), Stuvi 5B sight.
A1/U1: (reconnaissance, doubt we'll get this one): 2x151/20(350rpg), Revi C/12D sight.
A1/U2 "Auxiliary destroyer": 2xMG17(1000rpg), 2x151/20(350rpg), 2x151/20(200 or 230rpg), Revi C/12D sight.
A1/U4: 2xMG17(1000rpg), 2x151/20(350rpg), BK-5 (22rounds), Revi C/12D sight.
A2: 2x151/20(350rpg), 2xMK103(?)

B1 "Schnellkampf": 2xMG131(600rpg), 2x151/20(350rpg), Stuvi 5B sight.
B2 Destroyer: 2xMG131(600rpg), 2x151/20(350rpg), 2x151/20(200 or 230rpg), Revi 16B sight, 2x500kg. 
B3 Recon: 2x131 and 2x151/20(350rpg), Revi 16B.

All with 300rpg on the MG131 barbettes.

And the BK5 also was an option for the B-2.  I don't remember where I saved the info on the MK103 loadouts... There's obviously more, because IIRC the 6x20mm was a factory package.

B2/U2/R5 was the factory 6x20mm package.

[moot]

Yep going thru it all now..

[fudgums]

sexiiiiiii

[Krusty]

I don't think it was so much a "1-off" as much as it was simply not used much. It could carry the gunpod like the 110 could, and like the 190As could under each wing, but like both other planes didn't do it so often.

The 219 carried 2 twin-gun packs under the belly (one behind the other, I think), so it was just a matter of performance price vs. what the plane could already carry internally.


Hell I'd pay perks to have the optional 2-gun pod 

[moot]

Someone posted the source and IIRC it said the pilot had the ground crew modify his plane for it.. I can't recall if it actually said one-off, but if it did, it might have been ambiguous in that it could mean the crew or book author didn't know of anyone else who used the configuration, or if it was actually an improvised/custom mod.  Do you remember if there was a factory code for it?

What exactly is the 2 gun pod? In the bomb bay, or behind it, or on the wings?  You're talking about the 410, right?  The 110G2 has that same behind-the-bomb bay extra pair of guns, IIRC.