F86!!

[Enker]

The fact is that the early jets made after WW2 owed their design more to captured German designs and technology than any other factor.


ack-ack

Well, that and the fact that we weren't having the noodles bombed out of us 25 hours a day.

[EskimoJoe]

wel we hav duh rv8 i dunt see wy we cnt hav du f86!!1!

[Ack-Ack]

I should've been more clear. The P51 handles great at high speed. The 262 doesn't (at least not as well as the Mustang).

Basically, and correct me if I'm wrong, North American began development of the Sabre by incorporating design features of the Mustang into the Fury (like the laminar flow wing, tail system, etc.). Then, they improved upon that design and added ideas taken from the Germans, which gets us the Sabre.

The problem is the things that made the P-51 operate well at high speeds didn't work on jets, which was shown by the design of the Fury.  It was the lessons learned from the Fury that carried over to the Sabre and led to the use of swept wing technology that enabled the Sabre to reach speeds up to 678mph+, something that would not be possible with the laminar wings.  In addition, the tail surfaces used in the Fury were also inefficient at high speeds, which led to the desigh of the all-flying tail that was added to the E model of the Sabre.

Evolution of the P-51?  No.  Evolution of the Fury? One can make that argument since the Sabre was based on the Fury design.


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[Fianna]

If the Sabre evolved from the Fury, and the Fury evolved from the Mustang, it's not unrealistic to say that the Sabre evolved from the Mustang.

This seems to be a subjective topic, based on how you define "evolved."

[Ack-Ack]

If the Sabre evolved from the Fury, and the Fury evolved from the Mustang, it's not unrealistic to say that the Sabre evolved from the Mustang.

This seems to be a subjective topic, based on how you define "evolved."

The Fury did not evolve from the P-51.  Some design elements from the P-51 were used to design the Fury (tail surfaces, wing and canopy) but that does not mean the Fury was a direct evolution of the Mustang. 

I will readily admit that the Mustang did have some influence in the design of the Fury and the lessons learned from those features on the Fury did influence the design of the Sabre but wasn't like how the OP said.


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[MachFly]

Yeah your absolutely right, F-86 did come from P-51, it came a long way from p-51.


Also did you know that F-22 came from the wright flyer, they look so much alike  , they both have wings!!!

Do you have a reading comprehension problem?

You certainly don't understand sarcasm.

[Fianna]

You certainly don't understand sarcasm.

What, exactly, were you being sarcastic about?

[B4Buster]

Amazing how negative threads get the most responses 

[MachFly]

[EskimoJoe]

What, exactly, were you being sarcastic about?

Is it not obvious? F-22 and the Wright Flyer? They're like, so totally close its, like, hard to tell like, how, like, different they are..

[oakranger]

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Oh, that cloud formation is called "Derechoe"

[Fianna]

Is it not obvious? F-22 and the Wright Flyer? They're like, so totally close its, like, hard to tell like, how, like, different they are..

Then my response stays the same. He has a reading comprehension problem.

[MachFly]

He has a reading comprehension problem.

reading what?

[l0newolf]

F86 was from the korean war and it was american the picture you have is a imported one so one word....





 
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[MachFly]

F86 was from the korean war and it was american the picture you have is a imported one so one word....





 
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4 posts, welcome to the forum


oh and BTW, this thread was posted on May 5th