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HTC and Co: Ta152 and Doras 9-13
« Reply #60 on: February 04, 2000, 08:01:00 AM »

That Fury was one mean and wicked aeroplane!

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HTC and Co: Ta152 and Doras 9-13
« Reply #61 on: February 04, 2000, 08:02:00 AM »
Don't know about whether Grumman was influenced by the 190, or merely aspects of it. The F8F was designed as a Kamikaze interceptor, pure and simple. The Navy needed something that could climb fast and be quick enough to run down the enemy. They basically took the F6F and reduced it in size and weight. (Ironic, as the F6F started life as an upsized F4F). The standard Grumman planform is very evident in all their projects.  

The F8F only carried 4x.50's, as this was adequate to deal with the Japanese a/c they would have faced (and it saved a little weight). Later F8F's had the cannons.

If AH ever turns one of these puppies loose, that will be the end of any other type being flown. What was it, sea level to 10,000 feet in 90 seconds?  

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« Reply #62 on: February 04, 2000, 08:58:00 AM »
Well, the F2G, the Corsair kamikaze interceptor had, I think, a 4000 fpm climb rate from sealevel. Only three made? (No more kamikazes).


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HTC and Co: Ta152 and Doras 9-13
« Reply #63 on: February 07, 2000, 04:53:00 AM »
After flying the beta arena for several
weeks, I have some conclusions about
plane-set balance (related only to top
performers):

AXIS:
190A8: Medium/long range missions.
       Superb high speed handling.
       Poor low/medium speed handling.
       Average climber.
       Average+ top speed.

109G10: Medium range missions.
        Very poor high speed handling.
        Poor/average low/medium speed handl.
        Great climber.
        Average++ top speed.
        (autotrim avobe 20000 is impossible).
       
ALLIES:
P51D: Long/very long range missions.
      Good high speed handling.
      Good medium/low speed handling.
      Average+ climber.
      Great top speed.

Spit IX: Medium range missions.
         Good high speed handling.
         Impressive medium/low speed handl.
         Average++ climber.
         Average+ top speed.

I haven't included earlier versions of 109 because they aren't a match for the P51 (can outaccelerate and outrun all of them).
Respect the Spit vs earlier 109 versions, the
Spit have a similar top speed/acceleration/
climb rate, but it can outturn any 109.
 
Of course, these are my impressions. But
taking them into account, it seems that the
axis plane-set absolutely needs 190D9 to be
able to compensate the mayor P51D advantage.

Ta152 is also a good idea, but remember that this plane is not a good performer at low alt. P51D can outrun Ta152 from medium alt
to SL. But Ta152 could be a very good choice for high flying bomber interception.