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Offline MachFly

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Re: Tempest vs Spitfire XIV
« Reply #30 on: May 27, 2009, 10:28:05 PM »
No. It only seems so. I'm just flying mainly Tempests in fighter mode this tour, and that's inflating my K/D. Go figure ;)

your last tour's K/D was 8.76, still high

And even if you just fly Tempests it's still good, not everyone can get that K/D flying Me 163

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Re: Tempest vs Spitfire XIV
« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2009, 10:30:40 PM »
I'm in the TA tomorrow evening working with Buddy... Stop in.


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rgr, I don't want to interrupt your training though, PM me when your going to be done or something


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Re: Tempest vs Spitfire XIV
« Reply #32 on: May 27, 2009, 10:36:25 PM »
rgr, I don't want to interrupt your training though, PM me when your going to be done or something


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I don't think Buddy would mind, he could use another soul for merge/dueling practice. He's currently learning the F6F-5, while I'm flying most of the lesser types such as the P-39D, P-40E, Ki-61, C.202 and the Boston. Don't underestimate the Boston, it's a match for more than a few fighters.


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Re: Tempest vs Spitfire XIV
« Reply #33 on: May 27, 2009, 10:37:04 PM »
Your "Dweeb 14" comment pretty much invalidated anything you had to say and just painted yourself as an idiot.


That said, the Tempest is far better than the Spitfire Mk XIV.

What, Karnak, just couldn't say something constructive, and simply moved to the personal insult?  My, aren't we the usual grown up.?  And in an aircraft discussion thread... You're a real case. And then you agree with me.....LOL.

 I may look at Spitfires in any way I see fit, and I don't need to ask for your approval sir.  I don't fly them, they are way too easy.  Turn, yank, pull.  Rinse repeat until having gained advantage.  I've prolly upped 5 in the last 5 tours.
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Re: Tempest vs Spitfire XIV
« Reply #34 on: May 27, 2009, 10:38:38 PM »
tempest > spitfire
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Re: Tempest vs Spitfire XIV
« Reply #35 on: May 27, 2009, 10:44:09 PM »

 I may look at Spitfires in any way I see fit, and I don't need to ask for your approval sir.  I don't fly them, they are way too easy.  Turn, yank, pull.  Rinse repeat until having gained advantage.  I've prolly upped 5 in the last 5 tours.

Spitfire vs spitfire. I bet you lose that fight. How can this be? Does the other guy turn, yank, pull better than you?

Try dueling them vs someone who knows a thing or two. There is just as much to learn with the spitfires as any plane, if not more considering the excelent agility of the spitfire can make your jaw drop. A novice in a spitfire is sure to end up on thier back in a flat stall very quickly when pushed.

If you fight me and beat me 5 out of 5 in spitfires i will accept that you have a clue when you say the above sentances. No offence intended sir, just offering an alternate view. S!
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Re: Tempest vs Spitfire XIV
« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2009, 10:54:07 PM »
I don't think Buddy would mind, he could use another soul for merge/dueling practice. He's currently learning the F6F-5, while I'm flying most of the lesser types such as the P-39D, P-40E, Ki-61, C.202 and the Boston. Don't underestimate the Boston, it's a match for more than a few fighters.


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Widewing

got it
I'll will probably be online tomorrow (5/28) at 6-8PM EST 

let me know if that's not good for you
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Re: Tempest vs Spitfire XIV
« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2009, 11:00:29 PM »
got it
I'll will probably be online tomorrow (5/28) at 6-8PM EST 

let me know if that's not good for you


We usually start at 8 PM EDT, but I'll try to get there at 7:30....


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Re: Tempest vs Spitfire XIV
« Reply #38 on: May 27, 2009, 11:03:47 PM »

We usually start at 8 PM EDT, but I'll try to get there at 7:30....


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don't worry about it, I'll adjust my schedule 
I'll come on at about 8 in that case
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Re: Tempest vs Spitfire XIV
« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2009, 11:07:29 PM »
Spitfire vs spitfire. I bet you lose that fight. How can this be? Does the other guy turn, yank, pull better than you?

Try dueling them vs someone who knows a thing or two. There is just as much to learn with the spitfires as any plane, if not more considering the excelent agility of the spitfire can make your jaw drop. A novice in a spitfire is sure to end up on thier back in a flat stall very quickly when pushed.

If you fight me and beat me 5 out of 5 in spitfires i will accept that you have a clue when you say the above sentances. No offence intended sir, just offering an alternate view. S!

Of course there's just as much to know.... provided you meet a good stick that makes you use that knowledge.  9 out of 10 times in the MA, in a spit, pull/yank rinse repeat works.  The Spit is entirely forgiving in every respect, and is difficult to put yourself in a bad spot with, provided you enter the engagement on the merge with somewhat equal E states.

I reserve my right to my opinion, based on around 15 years of "research" on this type of game.  The plane won the air war for Britain, of course it is great.  I would definitely say that it was the premiere early and mid war ride.

I simply don't see upping one and getting kills as any sort of challenge.

No offense taken, btw.  
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Re: Tempest vs Spitfire XIV
« Reply #40 on: May 27, 2009, 11:11:29 PM »
moray are you talking about 16 or all spitfires?
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Re: Tempest vs Spitfire XIV
« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2009, 11:27:45 PM »
moray are you talking about 16 or all spitfires?


Spit 8,9 16 and 14. 
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Re: Tempest vs Spitfire XIV
« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2009, 11:30:12 PM »
Especially the 14 is far from being "entirely forgiving in any aspect"
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Re: Tempest vs Spitfire XIV
« Reply #43 on: May 27, 2009, 11:42:26 PM »
A)

1.94 is higher than 90%. I didn't make this number up:

B)

As you seem to view K/D as giving give a player authority on this topic, I now declare, by the power of having a K/D twice as high as yours:

Tempest is a better fighter in a AH than the Spit 14.

You may now bow and be silent.
Thread is over.

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Re: Tempest vs Spitfire XIV
« Reply #44 on: May 27, 2009, 11:56:03 PM »
Proud of my 1.24 K/D!!  :rock :rock  Although, I'm sure I shouldn't be.   :lol

Each statistic is easily manipulated in one way, shape or form. ( Example: Many, not all, people with huge K/D and K/S simply up far away from fights and pick off stragglers, never upping from a base under attack, and always attacking from above with greater E and a better ride, hence never actually in any real danger of getting shot down.)

 As long as you are happy with it, and having fun, who cares about the rest.

It is much too easy to put artificial shifts into the rankings for them to have any absolute meaning at all.  After all, statistics mean only what the statistician wants them to mean.



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