ACES HOG (take a serious look at this)

[DB603]

S!

 Yeah...C-Hog,BlueCancer or whatever You want to call it.Everywhere and in numbers.Pray & Spray frenzy.Combine this with the ultimate lethality of the Dweebhano and almost endless supply of ammo.
 N1K2-J are not so numerous,but their UFO qualities bugger.No gravity whatsoever affects them  
 My main ride is 109 and have a LOT to learn in it,but have to fly so called dweebsters(La7 etc.) to stay alive sometimes.
 Those 2 planes don't bug me so much as the "park a CV off base and fly from flak umbrella"-syndrome.Why can't we get a new map?Lake Uterus ain't much better either.
 Suggestion...Why not to use friendly icons only at less than 3k range and disable enemy icon.Then no danger of shooting at wingie.Also the camo on planes would matter more and these 1k "spray&pray" would lessen or even diminish.MUCH harder to judge distance without the laser range finder with identify the plane gadget  



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[MrSiD]

Icons off and make aircraft two times bigger to compensate the reduced FOV...

I'd like to try and see how that would turn out. Probably it would just look totally weird =)

[Dowding]

The La-7 is now considered a 'dweeb' ride? Compared to what exactly? Its guns are good upto about d400, after that the chances of hitting anything diminish rapidly, and you would be very lucky to damage a plane at d600. You'd also be out of ammo too. I only fire when I know I have a better than 90% chance of hitting - i.e. and d200 or less. It is highly manoeverable, but I've killed a fair few in the tiffie this tour so it's not unbeatable.

Compare and contrast with both the Niki and the Chog - I've been critically damaged at 1k many times, especially with the Chog. If the niki is flown by a half decent pilot, it is very formidable. A half decent pilot in a 202, OTOH, is going to have problems.




[This message has been edited by Dowding (edited 04-20-2001).]

[Fatty]

I don't think anyone should be allowed to fly anything except 1c or n1k until they toughen up a bit.

[MANDOBLE]

 

Originally posted by Toad:
I will simply NEVER understand why people worry so about what the OTHER guy is flying.

It is really simply Toad, suppose you fly HogC and the rest of players fly only 109F, G2 and G6, you'll be bored of fighting over'n over the same kind of planes in a game that has more than 20 plane types. That is the point I'm worry about. To have fun here, there are two points to consider: the planes you fly and the planes you fight.

All the work made by HTC implementing new planes is of little value (perhaps only marketing), actually, only three plane types are satisfying more than 60% of players. AH will not be a "rich" game even with 100 plane types more. It remembers me the very old arcade games where you had only two kind of enemies (sprites), the normal one and the boss at the end of the game.

[DB603]

S!

 Well..I am not personally calling La7 dweebish.It is far from that.It's true it has speed and turning ability,but lacks the accuracy and ammo plus has a pretty hampered view.The stall is also very violent.But altogether rips a C-Hog to pieces very quickly  
 Niki and C-Hog are the 2 most hated planes due to their "point-and-click"-nature   I flew the C-Hog in one occasion to see what the fuzz is about.I had a DF and scored only 2 hits(nose and behind cockpit) on another C-Hog from 150d.It disintegrated!If that would have been MG151/20,the Hog would have flown away merrily chanting "I'm gonna get You"...Perk the darn thing!
 Niki is just an UFO disguised in clothes of a fighter.It is true it was more than a match to Allied planes with a good pilot,but here it is just ridiculous how good it is.Loses no energy,accelerates like a dragster and turns on a pencilhead.
 It would be interesting too see the FM part of AH, how it is coded and what is calculated for the FM,parameters,what type of modeling we have etc.AI seems to be pretty straightforward and shows no variation->not very complex IMO.



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[Pepe]

Instead of perking it, I want the Quakebird to get rid of this disguise....

I want to see the real white/grey colour, with that fancy red strip alongside....ah, yes, that nice X shape wing...  

Cheers,

Pepe

[MANDOBLE]

Pepe, you are wrong, it is dark grey with a little sphere between hexagonal vertical wings  

[Pepe]

Nope, it's allied  

Pepe

[SOB]

Wah.  I need a tissue.


SOB

[Fokker]

The chog kills a lot due to the numbers using it, specially from CVs. Its cannons and ammo load makes it the best vulch plane.

When vulching a field I have made as many as 17 kills in a single sortie. Many do this and that explaines the chogs kill ration. It is a good attack plane. Have a good ordnance selection and lots of cannon ammo. In a game where attacking fields are the number 1 goal, it is not strange that the chog makes well.

To meet a chog in a 1v1 fight is no real threath in most planes, as long as you avoid HO.

[Pongo]

 

Originally posted by MANDOBLE:

All the work made by HTC implementing new planes is of little value (perhaps only marketing), actually, only three plane types are satisfying more than 60% of players. AH will not be a "rich" game even with 100 plane types more.

Thats acctually a very good point. It would be more useful to the comunity to give us different paint jobs for the Niki and the Spit IX and the Hog C then to introduce new planes. Let us chose one of several paint jobs for those planes..
But...
During the time I fly (Pacific evenings)its no where near that bad. I dont see that many Nikis. Only an occasional swarm of Hog Cs. Lots of spits I guess but as likey to be the Spit V as the IX.
Maybe certain geographical areas or nationalities really prefer to fly only these planes? So that during some times of the day they are prevelent?

[Soda]

I always find waves of C-Hogs when trying to defend a base....  they come wave after wave, why you might ask, well think about this:

The best GV killer without bombs = C-Hog
The best hanger strafer = C-Hog
The best vulcher = C-Hog

The C-Hog is the king of all the aspects of a base capture, you never have to worry about having a GV screwing up your capture if you lose your jabo plane if you have a C-Hog, you just hispano it.

The only thing it can't do is actually drop the drunks for you.  No wonder it's around a lot.  And base capture, if done even half decently, usually yields at least some easy vulch kills.

Then again, I almost never fly the C-Hog, but when I do, it's because I need the flexibility and firepower it brings.

-Soda

[AKSeaWulfe]

I heard the FDBs woke up in bed together wearing panties last night... What happen? Did the LimpWristed LeatherWearing LittleWiener LuftWaffe get to you guys too???????
Heheheheh
-SW

[Toad]

Mandoble,

I suggest to you that not everyone is as fixated on the F4U-1C as you might suggest.

I personally never seem to find the arenas full of them.

My kill stats this tour are really diverse. I've been killed (in fighter v fighter combat) by C's roughly 13% of my "deaths" (and a clump of those came in a little furball action between A1 and A4 when kbman and Nash kept whooping me. I'm a slow learner   ) I don't fear F4U-1C's and I engage them whenever the opportunity presents itself.


OTOH, I've killed C's roughly 13% of my victories.

I just don't see, kill or die to that many F4U-1C's.

Now your mileage may vary. Please just accept the fact that it is NOT as you see it for all of us.

Your own stats for this tour show that you've died 9 out of 82 times to the F4U-1C. I have no way of knowing what you were in when they got you, but that's about 11% of your deaths.

You have killed F4U-1C's about 7.5% of your victories, 18/239.

You don't seem to be engaging any more of them than I do. Our percentages are reasonably close.

Yet you see an arena always full of them.

I see an arena where they are common but certainly not any more so than N1K1's and not much more than Spits or D-9's.

Sorry, I never will worry about what the other guy flies. A target is a target.

Who am I to dictate what another paying player chooses to fly?

Now fell free to resume this endless discussion. I'm out of it.  

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Fly what you like. Like what you fly. Don't worry about what the other guy flies. It's a game.